so i think chris van hollen would be very happy to go back to that political debate. they were making head way with it before the debt ceiling debate started. >> i have to stop there. we'll come back and talk about this in just a short while because the vote in the senate will be at high noon. the president of the united states will be speaking there after around 12:15. of course these are all eastern times. >>> meanwhile, picture this. right now in airports all across the country, faa inspectors are doing their jobs without pay. why? because congress couldn't get their vote together. some might say their act together. to extend funding before taking off on their summer break. what does that mean it for your safety and your next flight? we'll ask the faa administrator to explain all of it in just a moment. it was not until the university of phoenix that i was able to work full-time, be a mom, and go to school. the opportunits that i had at the university of phoenix, dealing wh profesonals teaching things that they were doing every day, got me to where i am today. i'm

they are members close to her in leadership and they are represent some knowledge-base, and chris van hollenho has been on the budget committee has been one of the big voices in the debate and jim clyburn of south carolina has been one of the faces as well and a part of the leadership team, and javie becerra is a member of the leadership, and with leader pelosi you get diversity, because on the republican side, you get all white men, and the democrats brought more a picture of looking at america, but the scale is tipped one woman out of 12, patty murray, a senor to out of washington, and a lot of of people want to know why it is called a spk, becau ed ed a supt is because it is rare for a committee to be come propleapri both parties, and if they come up with a report, it is no changes, but up or down and that gives it a large reach of power, and that makes the selections very important. you have wealthy members with john kerry on the team, and people who have more of a common touch, if you will as far as the rankings of personal wealth that members of congress submit. so you have a bit of a

those are people that we've seen time and time again, chris van hollen is a familiar face to anyone who'scovering politics for a long time. he's a familiar face to msnbc viewers. clyburn, this is a very leadership-heavy decision. it's very similar to the list of names we ended up getting from john boehner recently. not a big surprise there. the house side will probably be more rooted into their ideological beliefs. i think if any type of agreement can occur, it will be with the senate picks we saw over the last couple days. >> we know those disagreements have begun. nancy pelosi says this committee has got to focus on economic growth and job creation and make decisions regarding investments, cuts and revenue and really, the timing in terms of stimulating growth while reducing the deficit, she says it's got to increase demand by offering recommendations to ensure that wages grow along with productivity. i want to move to iowa, where you are, and things are getting hot there. mitt romney just got heckled. check this out. >> -- rise to 44%. we're not going to do that. >> what about social se

ranking african-american, xavier becerra, the highest ranking latino lawmaker, and maryland's chris van hollen, harkening back to the grand bargain that failed to take hold during earlier debt negotiations, pelosi called for both major entitlement cuts and increased taxes. >>> meanwhile, there is a new face among the gop's group of presidential hopefuls. texas governor rick perry. but he hasn't officially declared yet, so he couldn't take part in last night's debate in iowa where eight republican rivals went head-to-head on the issues only to find common ground in their criticism of president obama. nbc's steve handelsman reports. >> reporter: only republican candidates in the fox debate in iowa saved their best shots for president obama. >> our president simply doesn't understand how to lead. >> and the message is this. you are finished in 2012. >> reporter: mitt romney in iowa for the first time since may got heckled. >> you came here to listen to the people. >> look, obama-care was patterned after the mitt plan in massachusetts. >> reporter: fighting to keep his campaign alive tim pawlenty

pelosi chose south carolina's james clyburn, california's javier boser and chris van hollen, hark ening back. pelosi called for both major entitlement cuts and increased taxes. there's a new face among the gop presidential hopefuls, texas governor rick perry, but he hasn't officially declared so he couldn't take part in last night's debate where eight republicans went head-to-head on the issue, finding only xhochb ground on their criticism of president obama. steve handelsman reports. >> reporter: all eight candidates saved their best shots for president obama. >> our president simply doesn't understand how to lead. >> and the message is this, you are finished in 2012. >> reporter: mitt romney in iowa for the first time got heckled. >> obama care was patterned after mit's plan in massachusetts. >> reporter: fighting to keep his campaign ally, pawlenty vowed no more timidity. he clashed with michele bachmann. >> in congress her record of accomplishments and results is nonexistent. >> people are looking for a champion. they want someone who has been fighting. >> if that's your view of eff

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clyburn of south carolina, xavier becerra of california and chris van hollen of maryland. they have all called for tax increases in the past. the committee is made up of six democrats and six republicans. we saw some disturbing new images today from syria where the dictator bashar al-assad may be trying to crush a revolt once and for all. amateur video appears to show bodies lying in the streets in the city of homs in the west. syria finally allowed foreign journalist into hama today. after ten days of shelling by the army the streets are empty. many of the buildings burned out. human rights groups say nearly 2,000 civilians have been killed in syria since march. earlier today we spoke with secretary of state hillary clinton about how far the u.s. is willing to go to stop the murder of civilians. the obama administration has described bashar al-assad as illegitimate and i wonder if it's time for him to go. >> well, that's going to be up to the syrian people. but i can tell you that president obama and i have been working very hard to marshall international opinion. so we a

guest: representative dan holland really understands the federal sector -- representative chris van hollen has been a wonderful advocate, but not just for federal employees. we are very happy in maryland to have a representative chris van hollen in such an influential place. yes, we have talked to him and they're very concerned about federal retirement. we think that is going to be on the chopping block. that is one thing that we are really advocating to make sure that people look fancy -- federal employees have already taken a pay freeze and they a going to have a huge job cuts. going after people's retirement is something i think is the wrong thing to do. host: are we talking about healthcare? guest: no, we are talking about pensions. if you were making $50,000 as a federal employee, your pension would be about $16,000. the plans that we have seen will increase the employee contribution to that pension and reduce the actual amount to $10,000. now, that is a very heavy hit. these pensions are not as glamorous as people think. so, i just hope it does n get caught up in politics and ideolog

some new quickly going on there in development in texas we've got united states representative chris van hollen from maryland where lockheed martin happens to be headquartered now there are a lot of jobs represented here. and all of these various facilities in all these different states represented by all these politicians but you see they're not jobs that contribute to raising the standard of living for anyone and their very well protected jobs so when these tax leeches get funded by these members of congress not only are their campaign funding kickbacks there's economic havoc too it's the broken window fallacy writ large it's easy to see the jobs that the military industrial complex creates but not the jobs that never existed because paying taxes to support all these leeches has kept people from being hired to do jobs that actually create goods and services people want to consume but as long as we've got the super congress poll of bureau in place the american people will be doing the wrong kinds of jobs and as long as resources are diverted from the free market to feed this machine it will me

guest: representative dan holland really understands the federal sector -- representative chris van hollen has been a wonderful advocate, but not just for federal employees. we are very happy in maryland to have a representative chris van hollen in such an influential place. yes, we have talked to him and they're very concerned about federal retirement. we think that is going to be on the chopping block. that is one thing that we are really advocating to make sure that people look fancy -- federal employees have already taken a pay freeze and they are going to have a huge job cuts. going after people's retirement is something i think is the wrong thing to do. host: are we talking about healthcare? guest: no, we are talking about pensions. if you were making $50,000 as a federal employee, your pension would be about $16,000. the plans that we have seen will increase the employee contribution to that pension and reduce the actual amount to $10,000. now, that is a very heavy hit. these pensions are not as glamorous as people think. so, i just hope it does not get caught up in politics and ide

chris van hollen from maryland, who spent the last for you years working to get democrats to the house of representatives, used to run the democratic congressional campaign committee, so you now have 12 members, i'll call them the gang of 12. six democrats, six republicans, taking a look at the diversity, one woman, patty murray of washington state, one african-american, one hispanic, javier becerra, and nine white men. so it's got a little diverse, not a whole lot, but it will be a powerful panel. if they get a 7-5 vote in favor of more than a trillion in cut, it automatically goes to the floor of the house, no amendments, automatically goes to the floor of the senate, no amendments there, no filibuster allowed, a simple majority in both. if they pass it, then it goes to the president for his signature. if they fail to do all of that, they have to come up with recommendations by thanksgiving, the congress, house and senate, has to vote before christmas. if they fail to do it, there is a trigger mechanism that goes into effect and there's sweeping cuts from defense and from domestic pr

i'm joined by democratic congressman from maryland, chris van hollen, a member of that so-called committeeis morning they would like to see more than that, and there's also talk of job creation measures, are both of those feasible? >> yes, i think they are, first, the most effective way to reduce our deficits in the short term is to get america back to work, to help small businesses create those jobs, so that has to be priority number one. it should be coupled with a long-term plan to reduce the deficit. i agree that the more we do in terms of deficit reduction, the better off we'll be. that will help create long-term sustainable economic growth. it has to be done in a balanced way, a fairway. the many has layed out ideas in that regards, and the committee will be looking -- >> will you support medicare and medicaid to fund that money? >> i will certainly not support the kind of plan that the house republicans put forward, and just get the program. we've made it clear we're prepared to modernize the program, and the afterable carable. we do need to move the incentives away from the volume

nancy pelosi announced her pick, javie becerra of california and john clyburn and chris van hollen, isnon-starter? we are joined by jim from the policy advisers. if none of the members will consider raising taxes for any reason whatsoever, is this an exercise in futility? >> it is quite likely that if the republicans continue to insist that you can't have any increase in revenues that as part of the deficit reduction package, the joint committee will stalemate. i think that the real key there is not so much the members appointed, but the people on both sides who have been appointed there, and a number there that if a decision is made by the leadership, and in particularly the republican leadership to give up the stance they have been taking of absolutely no discussion of revenues, give that up and have a serious debate about balanced package of revenue increases and spending cuts, there are people on the committee who could actually try to make that kind of oingagreement happen, but th are no signs yet of speaker boehner or minority leader mcconnell have decided it is time to change th

her picks are jim clyburn, javier becerra and chris van hollen.ow we know who will be on the house side and who will be on the senate side. how would you assess this group and its ability to get something done? >> i think these members are all political veterans, professional politicians who have the ability to do what circumstances are going to warrant. i actually don't think, andrea, the individual identity of these members is important as the broader political atmosphere. leadership in our system now ultimately makes most of these calls, i would expect that to be true on the super committee, whether you have the pragmatist arm like camp and upton or the hardliners, hensarling, toomey on the senate side. so i do think one big relates volatility we were talking about, the administration is looking at ways to spur economic growth. that is a separate discussion from what to do about deficit reduction medium and long-term. one of the questions facing the white house, are those separate packages or do you roll them all together and try to load all of

chris van hollen was also involved in the recent biden talks. dual quote the joint committee has a golden opportunity to take its discussions to the higher ground of americaens greatness and its values must meet aspirations of american people for success and keep america number one. shep? >> shepard: now that they we all the members. how is it looking for maybe getting something done? >> that's the challenge. the concern is it could be set up for gridlock. we have heard from some of the 12 members on the super committee and they sound like they recognize a lot is at stake in these talks. here's republican senator pat toomey. >> i can't imagine circumstances that would put more pressure on us to get something done when you consider what's happened in the last few weeks it all points to the you are general is i of doing something meaningful to move us in the direction of a fiscally sustainable budget. so i sure hope we can accomplish something. >> the 12 members of the super committee will be spending a whole lot of time with each other in the com

congressman chris van hollen, congressman james clyburn, and congressman javier becerra, from california, and maryland, respectively. those three men are nancy pelosi's picks to be part of the so-called 12-member super committee charged with coming up with $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction. >> you're going to have to come back to the table with 4 billion, 4 trillion dollars worth of cuts. like it or no. you can not let your borrowing requirment get out of hand and your ratio of gdp to debt is just getting ridiculous. as many of the european countries are. i feel absolutely passionate about this for the simple reason i believe excessive debt could lead to the demise of democracy. i think it is that bad. jenna: a profund statement following up now what we have the super-committee that will try to figure out what to do with some of this debt. that was the market analyst david buch he has been watching the financial world for 49 years. he really got us thinking and certainly a lot of reaction from you the viewers. could the debt problem we're experiencing right now lead to the end of some m

congressman chris van hollen from maryland, top democrat on the budget committee.ommittee was expected. he put out a statement a little while ago saying he thinks fixing the unemployment problem is the best way to reduce the deficit, so that's one of those refrains we hear pretty regularly from democrats these days. he's seen as a rising star in the congress. no real surprises. it's not like she put a conservative blue dog on the committee which would have sort of turned heads, if you will. >> yeah. a lot of people there are wondering if this committee is going to be able to get anything done. what's their history in terms of the bipartisan agreement in. >> they are seen as democratic party loyal its. i think you talk to them. they are seen as reasonable people but not exactly ready to sort of bargain away the core issues that the democratic base cares about the most, so i -- i don't know that you can sit down and look at these three and say, hey, these are real deal-makers that will just bargain away some of the basics. you know, you have to look to some others, p

republicans, and the democrats are democrats, but there are knowledgeable, and i am thinking of chris van hollen and dave camp. these are guys that stand in their camps, but fundamentally want to do the right thing and find a compromise. they are a group of people will love to get something done here. host: the way this is structured it takes a simple majority vote. does is give it a greater chance of success? gee, a lot of my colleagues are uncomfortable with the concept of a super-committee. we were sent to washington to represent constituents, and now we have these 12 people acting as a super-congress. it is impossible to deny that preceptor -- the process of negotiating the deal that was struck at one week ago harm our economy -- the rhetoric, the use of the debt ceiling as a tool reaching that was profoundly irresponsible. this might be one of those instances where crafting of a deal with people that are less- inclined of going on the cable news shows might be the way of making this decision. i am cautiously optimistic terror host: effect -- optimistic. host: if they're not successful, what

here's the graphic, pelosi's picks, congressman james cia burn of south carolina, beccerra, chris van hollen, clearly left wing part saps, boehner's picks, jeb hensarling, david kampp, fred upton, fiscal hawks, tea party-backed, the senate side, mcconnell's picking pat toomy, jon kyl, traditional conservative, rob portman, former bush budget director, then harry reid's picks, again, real partisans, talking about patty murray, head of the democratic senate campaign arm, max baucus, who is a bit of a moderate, and john kerry who's been a frequent critic of the tea party. so it's very, very difficult to see how these opposing forces, the immovable object versus the irre sistable force is going to come together if there's any kind of balanced approach the president wants to see. alisyn: it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in that room and hopefully you will bring us inside there when it happens. doug, thank you. alisyn: taking bets as to whether or not they can come to an agreement, we will see. what had been peaceful student protests, exploding into violence in chile. watch here: >>

chris van hollen had really been the face in recent months. jim clyburn, the no. 3 leader of house leadership and the only african-american on the panel was chosen as well. he is close to the obama administration, and is a former whip with close ties across this very diverse caucus. the third pick is xavier becc erra. he is the only hispanic who will be on the committee. he is also on the ways and means committee. he served last year on the joint fiscal commission that the president set up. he served and voted against its recommendation. none of these picks are particularly surprising outside of the mainstream. >> did the democratic senatorial picks surprise you at all? any unexpected? >> well, will be the only woman on the panel --patty murray will be the only woman on the panel. she has been very fiercely critical of the attempts by house republicans in particular to remake of medicare and other programs. she is respected on both sides of the aisle. she holds the senior posts on the budget appropriations committee. it was interesting to see

house minority leader nancy pelosi making final three selections adding democrats james clyburn, chris van hollenand. they have less than three months to agree on $1.5 trillion onin spending cut. rick perry is joining the party. he's scheduled to lapp. his bid at an event in south carolina tomorrow. from there he'll head to other voting states to new hampshire and iowa. >>> philadelphia is fight back against flash mobs. kids have joined these groups. they're going around attacking random people. >> he's tightened team curfews on friday and saturday nights and he says he's ready to punish the par it is pants in these mobs and their parents. cnn susan canndiotti joins us. the mayor has made it clear. this is a family issue. he really gave it to people saying you've got to be in charge of your own kids. >> oh, yeah. he's had it up to here and he's making no bones about it and take nothing prisoners. you know, there's tough talk from mayor michael nutter. he's had enough of violence and shenanigans stirred up around his city, so tonight's the night. a curfew in philadelphia is being extended by an ho

>> nancy pelosi pick three members of her leadership circle to serve on the committee, chris van holleng member of the budget committee. he has really been the faith of house democrats on budget issues in recent months. he also served on the panel that was headed by vice president joseph biden earlier this year to try to find a solution on the debt issue. jim clyburn, the number three member of house leadership and the only african-american on the panel was chosen as well. he is close to the obama administration as is the former with two heads cross the very diverse caucus, and the third pic is xavier becerra. he is the number five member of house leadership, the vice chairman of the democratic caucus, and he is the only hispanic who is going to be on this committee. becerra is on the ways & means and the observed last year on the bull simpson joint fiscal commission that the president set up. he served on a commission and voted against its recommendations, so you know that is sort of -- none of these pics are particularly surprising outside the mainstream. >> did the democratic senator

in the washington area, chris van hollen, who is also on the super committee, one of the 12. steny hoyer, the no. 2 democrat in ads of representatives, a person who was known not only for his strong leadership in the democratic party, but his ability to work across party lines, one of the best bridge builders we have in the house of representatives. , one of thes one o other members, representing prince george's and montgomery county. roscoe bartlett, a longtime member of the house from the western part of the state, one of the bride is the science-we have in the house of representatives -- one of the brightest science mines we have in the house of representatives, has been a strong spokesperson for energy and environmental policies in that house from the republican side. and then andy harris, newest member of our delegation, lives in baltimore county but represents the shore in anne arundel county and baltimore county. i worked with congressman harris on some of the chesapeake bay issues. we are trying to work together to bridge some of our differences. we have different vie