and these are -- chris verrone, this is a textbook chart, and as mr.tioned him last hour, this is not president xi's friend, is it? >> it's been a bear market in chinese stocks since the early part of 2018. tom: well contained, well behaved, signaling south, right? >> and nor have we seen the price action in this market that often marks it -- tom: thank you. you set me up beautifully. christopher verrone, how do you have this kind of action in a totalitarian regime? he and i have been doing this for years. can you do that in the strange regime of china? >> well, beijing would like to be ard to order the stock market around. tom: thank you. >> but they have limited ability to do so. tom: i think this is a huge issue, francine. i mean, how do you have a cathartic move? what's your experience on this, chris? >> perhaps you have it away from chinese stocks. if you look at all the things related, whether it's samsung or apple or copper or the european luxury names, maybe that's where the capitulation needs to evidence itself to stay sa say that we've put in