wilkinson, josh farrell, and jonathan capehart. i'll start with you, john, you've written a lot about this. you've written recently about the threat that chriswrite christie may believe that wildstein like kelly is prone to talk and that is talk may be especially harmful better to cast him as a loser and lay the groundwork for a more savage thrashing of wildstein's credibility down the road." how real do you think it's going to be that he'll be spilling the beans on him? >> when people get charges hovering over their heads, their attitudes about their boss seep to change a bit. you know, that goes back to michael isikoff's point. the not just that christie would withhold his staff, but the staff may have their own liability issues where they don't want to testify. they want to plead the fifth but what i was remarking responsible in that piece is the enormous amount of energy he spent in the news conference singling out two aides and sort of isolating them. that's wildstein and his former deputy chief of staff whose name is escaping me at the moment. >> bridget kelly. >> correct. bridget kelly. and way that i thought might be a signal that th