we're going to post those comments from chris wray online tonight if you want to see that. we don't hear from the fbi director all that often except when he's doing congressional testimony. but in addition to him talking about those big foundational issues for the fbi, this remarkable time for the bureau, with the president, the white house attacking the fbi regularly, chris wray has also had some very specific remarks about something the fbi and homeland security department jointly announced and warned about just a few days ago. >> you and the department of homeland security put out a report last week detailing russian efforts to hack into infrastructure, power plants, utilities, the power grid water systems. what do you think the russians were up to there? were they trying to say, see what we can do? so you don't try it with us? what was happening there? >> well, the cyber attack that you're referring to, the, i think first i would say it was the real deal. it's something we take very seriously. i don't know that i want to -- and we're very confident in our attribution of

chris wray tells pete that president trump has never personally pressured him about the russia investigation important to have him on the record about that. director wray also goes on at length about what he sees as the important nonpartisan nature of the fbi and the crucial independence of the fbi. that also seems important right now to have him on the record about that, especially after the firing of the fbi's deputy director following months of pressure and taunting of him by the president. we're going to post those comments online tonight at madd maddow.com, if you want to see that. it's very interesting to hear him put that stuff in his own words. but in addition to talking about those big foundation an issues with the fbi, that the remarkable time for the bureau, with the white house and him attacking them regularly, they've had some specific remarks, something they jointly warned about a few months ago. >> ywhat do you think the russians were up to there? were they trying to say see what we can do so you doesn't try it with us? what was happening there? >> well, the cyber attack that

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i look at the way chris wray does his job with all this going on. he doesn't even look like he's affected by any of it. that's the leadership we need -- >> you would counsel jeff sessions to stay. >> i would counsel him to stay as long as he thought he was serving the president, the justice department and the country in the best way. as a former chief executive, the president has the right to do what he wants to do. if the president has no confidence in the attorney general, the president has to act. not just criticize, but act. he has the right to do that. as a former chief executive, i wouldn't deprive him of that right. in terms of jeff sessions' decision, he has to decide if i'm effective and am i serving the country well and the people of the department of justice well because it matters. >> chris christie, reince priebus, thank you. we'll dig into the debate on guns. you saw the president seeming to back democratic proposals. take a look. >> 97% of americans want universal background checks, yet we can't get it done. there's nothing else like

now, the whole thing with andrew mccabe, remember, was sort of set in motion before chris wray became director. and what we saw as the maturation of that in late friday. it all began with -- in october of 2016 when andrew mccabe did an interview with a reporter for the "wall street journal" who was asking about, he was trying to check out what he had heard which was that the fbi was slow rolling an investigation of the clinton foundation. so, he called the fbi and said, is this true? mccabe authorized talking to him to say, no, it's not, that the fbi was pushing ahead, but they were getting resistance from the justice department. the meantime, after the election, the inspector general, the justice department decided to do an investigation of how the fbi did the whole hillary clinton case and found out about this, and what we're told now -- and the trouble we have here is none of us have seen the inspector general report that triggered the mccabe firing. but what we've been told is when mccabe was asked about this, he didn't tell the truth and that's why they fired him. >> there have b

>> my reaction is it's good that chris wray is saying the things that he is saying.all snippet. i haven't seen the full interview. but i think at a time when people have concerns that there is political interference, a time when people are concerned that the president is telling people what to do and the fbi is not handling his responsibilities in an arm's length way, it's incredibly important for the leader of the fbi to make clear, look the american people in the eye like he appears to have done in that interview and say that he is above politics and he is not going to be interfered with for any reason having to do with politics. so i hope he means it. everything i know about chris wray suggests that he is a person of integrity and independence, and he has to really care about not only what the public thinks about the fbi, but what the internal folks at the fbi who are charged with keeping us safe every day from all sorts of harm, what they think about it. james comey and andrew mccabe. they are speaking out. is it appropriate considering their roles right now in t

earlier this year, chris wray announced that rybicki was out. republicans in congress taking shots at rybicki, trying to construe him as a partisan. also the general counsel of the fbi, james baker who remains at the fbi for now, but he has mysteriously been reassigned to a job nobody can describe with responsibilities no one can name. the president has also been taking shots at jim baker publicly. and of course there is andrew mccabe, deputy director of the fbi who the president publicly denounced for months and who is getting retired out of the fbi at the ripe old age of 49 until attorney general jeff sessions fired him, 26 hours short of his retirement. for months, we've been reporting this, that the clearing out of comey's inner circle really looks like a coordinated concert aid tempt to discredit not just james comey, but also the witnesses who could corroborate comey's account of his interactions with president trump. all the time that we've been reporting this, none of those witnesses themselves has ever spoken publicly about this. none o

. >> chris wray has become an embarrassment to the fbi. what is going on at the department? this place seems to be upside down, on its head. what does that tell you about the fbi director? it tells you he's a coward! >> a coward! that's trump's guy! although digenova now is just sounding a lot like donald trump on steroids. >> when i -- when everybody -- not me, when everybody, the level of anger at what they've been witnessing with respect to the fbi is certainly very sad. >> so, digenova joins team trump at the exact same time trump himself is, for the first time, leveling a personal attack against the special counsel himself. here's the tweet. again, it is the first time ever that trump has slammed bob mueller by name. quote, the mueller probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime. it was based on fraudulent activities and a fake dossier, paid for by crooked hillary and the dnc and improperly used in fisa court for surveillance of my campaign. witch hunt. okay, put aside factual inaccuracies in that tweet. if trump's slam of

. >>> a new revelation today from fbi director chris wray making it clear he threatened to resign earlier this year when he felt pressured by the trump administration to fire some senior officials. he made the remarks in an exclusive interview with nbc's pete williams. >> do you feel any political pressure from the white house? >> no. >> president's never asked to you say anything about it or clear him? >> about the russia investigation? >> yes. >> he's never asked me to do anything with the russia investigation. >> it's been reported that you threatened to resign over being urged to fire people, is that correct? >> you know, i have been very clear from the minute i was nominated to the minute i walked in the door to countless opportunities since then that i am unwaveringly committed to doing this job by the book, independently, following our rules, our processes, free from political or partisan influence. >> so you're saying those reports are not wrong? >> i'm not going to talk about specific conversations. >> you can see more of our exclusive interview with the fbi director tomorrow mor

and you have people in charge, rod rosenstein to be one, chris wray to be another, who do not understandt this is a crisis. they're behaving like children. they don't know how to lead. they don't know how to make public statements. they have disappeared. >> reporter: the white house says there are no discussions about firing mueller, but there are discussions about an interview between mueller and the president. that's clearly a subtext to all this. in the senate, republicans today, many of them, urged the president not to fire mueller, warning him of potentially overwhelming and presidency- ending consequences if he does. jeff? >> glor: major garrett, thank you very much. the president went today to new hampshire, a state hard hit by the opioid epidemic, and he said that drug dealers should be subject to the death penalty. >> if we don't get tough on the drug dealers, we're wasting our time. just remember that. we're wasting our time. >> federal level with new litigation. in bermuda, the police say they found the body of a missing american college student. 19-year-old 19-year-old mark d

chris wrays mueller has to go to get his mandate expanded or e l evaluated. and these nine that are registered as democrats, they're not going to let their party affiliation interfere with their fact-finding mission. so just because you're registered democratic or republican, it goi's going to de your view or elements of the law. it just defies reality. >>> lawmakers want answers now from facebook following allegations linked to the social media juggernaut. they have risen their interviews to 15,000 people. >> the leader of cambridge analytica says he's willing to speak to the special prosecutor and the fbi. the information comes from his own e-mail sent to his fellow colleagues at cambridge university. colin montgomer cogen's company provided all kinds of data. the data gathered through a personality test facebook application that he built. when facebook users took this test, they gave kogen access to all their data, and even some of their friend's. during the campaign donald trump's election team used facebook almost exclusively to target messages and voter

jeff sessions called up chris wray and say you got a subpoena. get it done.ustice department faulty examination and unlawful exoneration of mrs. clinton. that's the document they're looking for. >> what are we still talking about this e-mail investigation that's been long closed. i don't know what else to say. >> i don't know if it is closed. >> there's still lingering questions. >> i don't buy the excuse, -- we should always seek the truth. there's something here that is so rotten and so hidden and it's not about an e-mail account. it's about having an entire senioserver that was unsafe. >> we talked about it so many times and she apologized for it. >> she was unlikeable candidate who did bad things. unfortunately, bad people who do bad things sometime have to answer for them even when the timing is inconvenient for them. >> entitlement. when you see jennifer write being this who was in hillary clinton's inner circle, she brings it up in her brook -- book. it is about that look is somebody too big to go after? in terms of hillary clinton. that has been maybe

and so important that we just met with director chris wray of federal bureau of investigation, we askedy do the same with federal agents, he assured us they are working toward that. >> is there any part there, when you talk about the agencies and law enforcement, looking some places to you think wise to life within a community is there any part of this goes with accountability. i hear about gun violence that one thing. but, the focus -- where do we get a focus on folks who are pulling the trigger with the guns? >> i am convinced there has been an uptick. we heard from the tobacco and firearms folks, that there has been an uptick in burglaries of federal firearms dealerships, we're finding in a lot of communities, young folk are breaking in and committing burglaries to federal firearms deal sedealership. >> but the mind set of using a firearm or in particular you know someone has a red bandana you have a blue bandana, something done to alleviate that. >> a lot of talk we're talking to department of justice about some certain bands, it is my belief, that a lot of it associated with the me

chris wray has become an embarrassment to the fbi. what does that tell you about the fbi director? it tells you he's a coward. >> reporter: wray, who has maintained a neutral tone, was chosen by trump himself. but now that the president is taking a more aggressive posture against the special counsel, he's surrounding himself with people like digenova who aren't afraid to go after mueller. >> all right, chip, thank you. >>> police say early indications show an uber self-driving suv may not have had time to stop or avoid hitting a pedestrian who was killed in arizona. now uber has suspended all testing of its autonomous vehicles after the sunday night crash. kris van cleave is near the crash scene in tempe, arizona. kris, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. police say the woman came from this median and quickly veered out into traffic. she may not have given the vehicle enough time to be able to stop or avoid her. now, once the national transportation safety board is here on scene, one of the things they'll look at is if all the technology on board the self-driving car should hav

virtually everyone else underneath him, mike pompeo, chris wray. >> it starts from the head. >> let's not forget the state department in 2016 was appropriated millions and millions of dollars to do something about russian meddling. so far they've spent zero of that money. april, thanks very much, laura, chris. good work. >>> in an unprecedented move, north korea, the leader there, kim jong-un offering to potentially abandon his country's nuclear efforts program. what does he want in return? we have new details. we'll be right back. you've tried moisturizer but there's one... that blows them all out of the water. hydro boost water gel from neutrogena®. with hyaluronic acid it goes beneath the surface to plump skin cells from within and lock in hydration leaving skin so supple, it actually bounces back. the results will blow you away! hydro boost and our gentle exfoliating cleanser from neutrogena® >>> in a remarkable diplomatic development, north korea is now willing to talk to the united states about giving up its nuclear weapons. that's the word from south korean delegates who just r

he was put on ice by the director, chris wray anyway. they were probing him.. steve: the big speculation on friday morning was would the attorney general of the united states fire mr. mccabe by 5:00? he did not. he fired him just shortly before 9:00 p.m. and then of course mainstream media, with their hair on fire next thing you know, you know the president of the united states is going to fire robert mueller and this investigation they said. the president's own personal attorney ty cobb said no this will not happen. ainsley: in response to questions posed to the administration the white house yet again confirms is not considering the discussing or firing of special counsel robert mueller. brian: the speculation is not unfounded. john dowd pen as letter calling for rosenstein to tell robert mueller to wrap it up, call it quits. because the president fired the secretary of state because he was ranting directly about robert mueller's investigation and nine hardened democrats doing the investigating on his staff, that is different. for the most part the president

we know from what chris wray said on "the hill" that both of the ex-wives spoke to the fbi there is noon that general kelly got nfginformatio from the fbi, they should have raise flags by a bucket hole. >> the other thing i don't get is why general kelly would not only try to relitigate this today but also give himself a pat on the back at the same time? >> yeah, it was really was, it was unforced error. we can speculate whether he's worried about his job being on the line and trying to explain and demonstrate to the president that he's got this under control, we simply don't know. what i can tell you from talking to officials at the white house is that porter was entrusted deputy of kelly. i think it is likely that the general is willing to sweep some things under the rug because he needed him. >> we told him everything and if general kelly says he does not know about the physical abuse, that does not make sense. >> if dailymail.com, if they had not done this reporting, would the actions be taken? >> all we do know is that by the next day, they were still supporting him from the podiu

. >> neil: you're talking about the fbi director, chris wray.made a big deal that his pension was denied at the last second. you think it should be denied? >> his pension is not entirely lost. i don't know all the ramifications of it. he's still entitled to a great portion of his pension. the fact of the matter is, i think attorney general sessions may the correct decision based upon reports that mccabe authorized leaks to the media and then gave false information about that during the investigation conducted by the inspector general. we will find out more about the report, but that is the appropriate step taken by the attorney general. there needed to be changes in personnel at the time of the fbi given all the other things that the inspector general has investigated and were investigating related to the fisa warrant applications and how they handled both the clinton and trump investigations during the campaign. >> neil: chairman goodlatte, thanks very much. good seeing you. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: we mentioned hillary clinton here. you know

and we also know from what chris wray said on the hill that both of the ex-wives had spoken to the fbi about this earlier. there is no question that there was information from the fbi that should have raised flags from the bucketful. and no question in my mind that he got a complete read. >> the other thing i don't get is why general kelly would re-litigate this today and also give himself a pat on the back at the same time. >> it was an unforced error. no reason to re-litigate any of this. we can speculate about whether he is worried about his job being on the line. trying to explain to the president that he has this under control. we don't know. what i can tell you from talking to the officials at the white house, is that porter was considered trusted and important general to kelly. and it was likely that the general was willing to sweep things under the rug because he needed porter. if general kelly says now he didn't know about the physical abuse, that doesn't make sense. >> right, and your last point gets to the question, if dailymail.com hadn't do this reporting would the actions

fbi director chris wray putting 54 people in two shifts on the job of reviewing thousands of documents house republicans. they relate to fbi decisions republicans have criticized as showing political bias including the fbi probe of hillary clinton's private e-mail server, potential fbi abuses of foreign surveillance warrants, and the investigation that led to the firing of former deputy director andrew mccabe. a justice department source tells cnn attorney general jeff sessions has fumed at the pace of the fbi response and it's unacceptable. >>> it is official, facebook ceo mark zuckerberg will testify before congress over facebook's failure to protect user data. sources tell cnn he felt he had to after facing calls from the media, from the public and lawmakers. senate judiciary chair chuck grassley wants him at a hearing on april 10th. facebook also has a new legal headache. it's being sued for allegedly allowing housing discrimination. the suit claims its ad tools let marketers exclude single women and families with children. wall street was not comforted by either of those headlines

chris wray, who by the way was the replacement for jim comey that donald trump chose. rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general. trump has made no secret of his dislike. let's go to one more slide. this one will really get you. this is just people who he may not be actively feuding with but that have issues of their own. i think these are the two really to pay the most attention to. jared kushner and ivanka trump are two of the people closest to donald trump in his orbit. obviously his son-in-law and daughter. jared kushner, any number of issues, most notably on security clearances. dealing with only a secret, not top secret, security clearance. down here, these are cabinet officials. scott pruitt at epa, shulkin at veterans, zinke at interior, ben carson at hud. ben carson spends $13,000 on a dining set for his office at hud. must be a nice dining set. they canceled that. shulkin, spending money on a trip to europe with his wife. misuse of taxpayer funds. inspector general's report pending. don mcgahn in the middle of all the russia stuff as white house counsel. so

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chris wray over at the fbi, despite the fact that he worked with chris christie is close, is sort of in the same broad social circles, in the same world as joirjs andy mccabe and bob mueller. if the president wanted a justice department that would sort of indicator to his whims, he is not getting it. >> i will note he did get his way on andrew mccabe. >> that's true. >> after berating him for over a year. betsy woodruff and harry litman, thank you for being here. >> sure thing. >> thanks, chris. >>> next, incredible new charges against the company that ran president trump's data operation, making sense of cambridge analytica and the shocking recordings of just how they do business, in two minutes. elping to replenish the mighty rio grande as well as over 30 watersheds across the country. we're also leading water projects in more than 100 communities. and for every drop we use... we're working to give one back. because our products rely on the same thing as we all do... clean water. and we care about it like our business depends on it. >>> cambridge analytica was founded on misappropr

chris wray over at the fbi, despite the fact that he worked with chris christie, is close, is sort of in the same broad social circles, in the same world as james comey, andy mccabe and bob mueller. if the president wanted a justice department that would sort of indicator to his whims, he is not getting it. >> i will note he did get his way on andrew mccabe. >> that's true. >> after berating him for over a year. betsy woodruff and harry litman, thank you for being here. >> sure thing. >> thanks, chris. >>> next, incredible new charges against the company that ran president trump's data operation, making sense of cambridge analytica and the shocking recordings of just how they do business, in two minutes. >>> cambridge analytica was founded on misappropriated data of at least 50 million facebook users. and i want to bring attention to that so that people understand that their data has been used improperly by this company. i think it's really important for americans to know what this company has been doing with their data. and it's really important i think to find out was this data used

. >> let me ask you about that because chris wray when he was testifying, he said, look, the fbi is taking a number of measures to try to prevent interference from russia in the next election as are other agencies at the u.s. government. but the testimony has always been that the president himself has not directed specific actions. why is that so critical? if individual agencies are acting on their own, why does it matter if the president has never held a cabinet level meeting to oversee kind of a, you know, overall strategy from all the agencies? >> well, exactly. i mean as director wray testified, director of the nsa testified, and today -- or yesterday, i guess, whenever the secretary of homeland security testified, and they're all apparently working things in their own lane. what's needed, though, is an across the government approach and some leadership and direction and most importantly a sense of urgency across the entire government, and for that matter across society. i mean the president, you know, his word carries huge weight. so if he is the leader in terms of educating the publi

we also know, from what chris wray said on the hill, that both of the ex-wives had spoken to the fbithis earlier in 2017. there's no question to me that general kelly got information from the fbi that should have raised red flags for him by the bucketful. there's no question in my mind he got a complete read that tuesday night of what i had explained to sarah huckabee-sanders about our reporting. >> the other thing i don't get is why general kelly would not only try to re-litigate this today but also give himself a pat on the back at the same time. >> yeah. it really was, i think, an unforced error. there's no reason for him to re-litigate any of this, much less all of it. we can speculate about whether he's worried about his job being on the line. he's trying to explain he's got it under control. we simply don't know. what i can tell you is talking to officials at the white house is that porter was considered a trusted and important deputy to kelly. he was general kelly's second eyes and ears in the oval office. i think it's likely that the general was willing to sweep some things u

when it it was out of fashion, it was at the same time that fbi director chris wray was begging the speaker to shutdown devin nunes' reckless -- he said there were grave concerns about the memo he released. it was at the time that donald trump was against andrew mccabe. do you think that something happened to revive this effort to protect mueller? because they sure let the president get a lot of slugz in. >> we saw a few weekends ago there was this test, this kind of test round fired where the white house is making noise again, the investigation has to end -- >> donald trump tweeted about mueller by name twice. >> exactly. and i think that was a test to see how would they react. what you got, i think unfortunately in a lot of corners was, i'm very troubled by that. it would be a bad thing. and the mueller investigation should keep on going. i think there are some republicans are only comfortable saying he should stay and investigate as long as they think it won't amount to something terrible. but i watch this whole thing happen for a year now and is there anything that's happened in washing

stepped down as deputy fbi director in late january, presumably at the urging of the fbi director chris wray, who was aware of these recommendations, but mccabe had said his retirement date would be this coming sunday. so this puts his pension in jeopardy, but it doesn't necessarily mean he'll lose it, according to government personnel experts that i talked to earlier today. he has some options. he can pursue -- that he can pursue that will perhaps preserve part of his pension. but the bottom line here is the attorney general has accepted the recommendation and emphasizes in his statement this is what the justice department's inspector general and the fbi recomme recommended. obviously attempting to say this was not politically motivated. >> let me get those distinctions clear. it's a recommendation not just from the inspector general but also a recommendation from the fbi? >> right. so here's the sequence. as you were saying, the inspector general right after the inauguration said he was launching an investigation as to how the fbi handled the entire clinton e-mail investigation. as part of

chris wray, who is the head of the fbi, there's been obviously all this turmoil at the fbi.e've seen it play out. we saw it play out dramatically last weekend. wray says the following. i' i'm going to read this to you rather than play the sound. i'm committed to doing things objectively and independently by the book. i think it has to extend to our investigations, our intelligence analysis, but also has to extend to personnel decision ands disciplinary decisions. >>> so, i ask you at this moment, do you think that wrich wray is living up to those words? >> i think by and large he is. i haven't seen evidence he isn't. it was the general's call to fire andy mccabe. that was part of the effort of the president to lean in on his general, to take out and undermine somebody who could be a witness of obstruction of justice in firing james comey. i think it was part of the efforts to stop and undermine the mueller investigation. >> jeremy bash, i just want to say to you, get a twitter account, for god sakes, man. you're making america crazy without your twitter. get a twitter accoun

>> no, but it's hard for him to criticize chris wray of all people.had him sworn in. he's on the record praising him, saying what a great guy he is. of course, they did that with other people in those positions as well, but certainly is a lot more difficult for the president to be critical of him. >>> up next, the president says everybody wants to work at his white house. so then why are so many people packing up and leaving? they appear out of nowhere. my secret visitors. hallucinations and delusions. the unknown parts of living with parkinson's. what plots they unfold, but only in my mind. over 50% of people with parkinson's will experience hallucinations or delusions during the course of their disease. if your loved one is experiencing these symptoms, talk to your parkinson's specialist. there are treatment options that can help. my visitors should be the ones i want to see. let's take a look at some numbers: there are treatment options that can help. 4 out of 5 people who have a stroke, their first symptom... is a stroke. 80 percent of all strokes

all of the people donald trump has attacked on twitter under chris wray being reorganized, if you willhagrin of many career lifelong fbi folks as i understand it. >> true. >> why is paul ryan going along with the corruption of the house intel committee? >> well, like many issues involving trump and this whole situation on capitol hill, they're trying to remain silent. it's not that he's sticking up for devin nunes in public. he's trying to make this go away. that's usually what, if you see trey gowdy, the oversight committee chairman, one minute he's dee fefending the credibil of bob mueller and everything he's doing, the next minute he's going deep state. he does a straddle if you watch what he's doing. they're trying to keep 1 foot in the land of the trump voter and the other foot in some kind of integrity of yore. i have no idea where this is going to end. when you talk to senators privately, if you ask them, is the president compromised and guilty of potentially financial crimes and bob mueller is going to have him dead to rights with the paper works, what are you going to do? we'l

i had to ask chris wray, the fbi director, to finally get a straight story about when the white housenformed about rob porter and some of his potential security clearance problems. you have security clearance problems at the white house, and you're potentially compromising sources and methods in what can be very serious intelligence matters. >> this is a president who ran on, a, hiring the best people, and b, going after hillary clinton for not handling classified information properly, said she would be the only president who wouldn't be able to get a security clearance. >> and he seems to get so caught up in potential efforts to try to discredit bob mueller, which aren't going anywhere because bob mueller has been so professional. with respect to all these memos and the nunes memo and the schiff memo, the fact of the matter is there's plenty of evidence on the trump aides independent of the dossiers. but the fact was the president was so interested in trying to somehow discredit bob mueller, which was never going anywhere, he just gets caught up in these stories. >> you've called on

. >> chris wray testified before admiral rogers did and said the president hasn't done anything you described. if we have a president who doesn't read the pdb and doesn't include any oral briefing about russia's role, how do we achieve anything you just detailed to protect us from russian meddling? >> i worked with the last three presidents closely, clinton, bush and obama. as you know, president bush got in detail with the issues and president obama did the same thing. there is no substitute for understanding the complexity of these challenges. and to be the one who is going to make informed decisions, and if those meetings are not taking place, if donald trump is not reading the materials that are put forward to him, i have deep and grave concerns about not just the cyber issue, but issues related to north korea, terrorism, other types of things. so, you know, one part of me is angry because i think there are things that should be done, but i think like admiral rogers was showing, i think there's deep, deep worry and concern for this country's national security. >> well, one place where the

. >> what do you think when you see people -- you must know chris wray.e was in d.o.j., during the bush years. >> right. >> emma rogers who testified on capitol hill in the last couple of weeks. body language said it all if they were asked if donald trump asked them to do anything to protect america from russia meddling in 2018 or 2020. as you say. the answer is no, not one thing. emma rogers was pretty careful to say that he used the authority that he has, but he's not been granted any extra authority. he runs cyber command. does that worry you? >> well, we should be doing everything that we can because the russians meddling in our elections -- first of all, let me say with vladimir putin this was an eye for an eye. he's an eye for an eye kind of person, and hillary clinton criticized his election. now he wants to show that he can sow chaos in ours. it is obviously a serious thing to have somebody meddle in american elections. i think that we have institutions, not just in the executive branch, but the congress can call attention to these issues. local a

fighter of mccabe, we haven't seen this report from the inspector general, but clearly fbi director chris wrayccabe handled whatever he handled correctly. we have to watch out for that report. and that also, neil, that report could be very critical of james comey. and certainly, trump is going to seize on that. trump is just frustrated. this is going on the for a long time, and it's going to go on, i think, for a while. neil: and it seems to have veered off course, as a lot of these probes do. ken starr was a good example of that. but now looking into the trump organization and business dealings if these reports are right, the president is getting increasingly annoyed, right? >> he is. and he doesn't like when people are looking into old financial transactions. certainly, that's what manafort, this is what the special counsel did with manafort going way back, and that's why he's looking at possibly life in prison. and mueller, though, wants manafort to say something. he's clearly putting the pressure on him. maybe that's because he's got some information, maybe because he needs more informatio

the intention to retire some couple of months ago had been announced by mccabe and fbi director chris wrayastened that removal of his position in part because of this office of inspector general report. we don't have those details. i think more broadly, on the timing of the stormy daniels issue and this, there are multiple lawyers in multiple jurisdictions representing the president in the outside case. coordination is not something we can always identify here. these are things that are running in sort of a parallel loop. they do affect each other in terms of the public perception. the stormy daniels track is something that the white house has tried to bat away. this is right in their lane. and the white house has learned the hard way that the president is not supposed to interfere, by tradition, in the department of justice. they pushed this on to jeff sessions. you laid out the case about how he has been politically under pressure since he uttered the word recusal. he follow this action, taking the advice because of the president's very public comments he wanted to see happen. and now he

the current fbi director chris christopher wray told nbc news of the firing was for cause and not politicalotivated. >> i'm committed to doing things objectively and buy the book. i think that has to extend not just to our investigations, but also has to extend to personnel the sessions and disciplinary decisions. >> on capitol hill today come in public as a democrat worn for 28 midterm elections are in russia's cross hairs. >> what i learned yesterday was horrifying. >> after reading the senate intelligence committee's draft finding on the russia election meddling, predicting the next round will be worse. >> they weren't doing it for fun in 2016. what it looks like is a test. and it was incredibly, as i say, thorough and comprehensive. >> no ballots were change, current and former homeland security warn against minimizing the threat. >> were there any votes affected by this intrusion into any system in america? >> not to my knowledge, sir. >> secretary nielsen? >> we have no evidence that any of these were changed. once these vulnerabilities have been made clear, it is not just russia that

and fbi director chris wray says he is doubling the number of bureau staff from 27 to 54 to comply with' documents requests concerning corruption in their hillary clinton e-mail server probe. it comes after congressman devin nunes leveled this threat. >> when we get back in two weeks, if the 1.2 million documents aren't in the capitol then he should immediately move to hold department and justice and the fbi in contempt and if we have to vote on contempt then we should immediately move to impeach those officials. that would be using the full power of the congress. >> and that comes as house democrats want to subpoena the department of defense for records relating to a report that former trump campaign chair paul manafort promised a chicago banker a job in the administration in exchange for $16 million in home loans. joining us now, a top democrat on the house oversight committee to take part in this conversation, congressman steven lynch of massachusetts. congressman lynch, joe, wrote a letter with congressman elijah cummings yesterday urging committee chair trey gowdy to issue the subp

. >> i feel needs a thorough investigation chris wray in that position five months when this happenedestigation by fbi to see what happened but, more importantly, in my mind right now, the broward countys sheriffs office governor of called for department of law enforcement to gave it the broward sheriffs office i am fully onboard with that, to see where that breakdown came through, there were multiple calls, i am hearing in media, so -- that to that home from sheriffs office we want at the see where that breakdown came also learn from that so it does not a happen again. >> yeah, i mean meanwhile, the sheriff is out talking about all the failures everywhere else, on tv every three seconds talking about it and yet people are appointing the finger at him want to see him step down. maria: i can't wait to see results of that investigation. >> let me switch gears opioid crisis. >> please. >> president hosted this summit at white house you were there the president says planning to roll out new policies in next three weeks, what can you tell us about that, why is this taking on this you urgen

my senior colleague, senator jack reed asked director chris wray of the f.b.i. about whether the f.b.i. had taken specific actions to confront and blunt russian influence and disinformation activities. and on february 13 in the senate intelligence committee, he said not as specifically directed by the president. no. read the transcript more completely, senator reed asked let me begin with mr. p wray and asked has the president directed you and your agency to take specific actions to confront and blunt russian activities that are ongoing? ray: we're taking a lot of activities to prevent russia directed by the president. the director said not as specifically directed by the president. no. similarly two weeks later in testimony before the committee the n.s.a.'s director, admiral mike rogers, said that he had not been granted new authority nor directed specifically by the president to take action to disrupt russian election hacking operations. again senator reed asked you would be asked by the department of defense -- mr. wray interrupted senator reed: have you been

. >> well, and speaking of that, because, chris -- isn't he in a fight with christopher wray at timesked director of the fbi? >> every time we think we hit rock bottom the bottom falls out and we sink to new depths. this was petty, vindictive. it had all the hallmarks of a political and personal vendetta, and it's vintage donald trump. but beyond that i think what this shows is that more than a year into the trump presidency, there are no grownups in the room. this isn't just on donald trump. it's also on sessions, john kelly. kelly has failed time and again -- >> members of congress. >> to stand up to trump when he has trashed constitutional norms, democratic institutions, attacked the fbi, now this. and i think what it shows is that, you know, there are no grownups in the room. and nobody -- it's a real failure on the part of kelly and the people around the president. >> mccabe released a statement saying in part this. he says i'm being singled out and treated this way because of the role i played and the actions i took and the events i witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of ja

wray. harris? >> harris: thanks, katherine. the one thing an fbi agent can't do is lie. chris swchecker was with the bureau for two decades. i want to start with your own words. what the bar is for an agent. >> it is high. one thing an agent can't do is lie or leak. they have to be witnesses on the witness stand. if you have had a sustained disciplinary action involving lying, i don't like the word "misleading." what they're talking about here is lying, then you're worthless as a witness. when you charge people with lying to the fbi, that being papadopoulos and lieutenant general flynn, then you can't be lying yourself. so i'm going to base my comments on the premise that the inspector general has truly recommended his firing for that reason. >> you know this agency so well. how surprised were you to see the evidence now in text messages and other places that there was bias against the current president inside the agency? >> i'm shocked that they were texting back and forth and there's records of communications of that nature. we know that agents vote. they have political leanings one way or the other. if you can't leave t