>> chris wray is absolutely right.he mueller reportcoluded that there was sweeping and systemic russian hiterference. wasn't just a couple facebook ads. the russians hack intoounty governments, into state governments, into former secretaries of state and we remain vulnerable to interference not just from russia but from many foreign powers. that's why i've btrying to ipartisan basis with kevin mccarthy to do something to improve the coordinenion bet law enforcement and tech platforms to make sure we aren't vulnerable tohese kind of cyber attacks. >> how are you and kevin mccarthy g to attack this? >> we need legislation that gives greater resources for enforcement to cooperate with tech companies and that has greater accountability for tech companies to eliminate possible foreign agents or bots on their platforms. we need real guidelines. i have an op-ed i publish that goes through three or four very concrete steps of what tech companies can do to cooperate with law enforcement. >> what are some o the steps? >> the fir

chris wray is on that list.at information is going to inform my fellow citizens that the russian threat was far more than just a threat against the democrats. it was a threat to our republic. for a unifying reason i think the information to the extent it can be should be released without jeopardizeing relationship with all eyes. >> sandra: tomorrow is a big day. what are your expectations for the mueller report with redactions. there will be a done ton of reaction to this. will it shed new light on this investigation? >> i don't think so, sandra. and i spent a lot of time in courtrooms. there is a jury that's impartial that hasn't made up its mind. there is a judge that fair. you don't have any of that in this fact pattern. i bet you can't find a single person tomorrow that will tell you his or her opinion has changed on president trump or on the house democrats. this is going to be an evidentiary summary without a verdict. i never had a trial where there wasn't evidence on both sides. at some point someone has

. >> dana: chris wray saying the threat of white supremacy on two fronts. target says they will raise their minimum wage to $13 an hour in june, putting pressure on walmart who pays $11 an hour. weekly jobless claims are at the lowest level in half a century. 202,000 last week. that's the lowest since december 1969. hospital nursing director in massachusetts taking a leap of faith on a baby in need of some help. her name is gazelle. she was in the state's custody due to her parent's drug addictions. she had no visitors and headed for foster care. liz adopted her and a year later, her health is improving and she's a beautiful little girl. they're a great family. thank you for doing that. thanks for joining us. i'm dana. here's shep. >> shepard: it's 3:00 on the east coast. noon in yuma, arizona where the homeland security secretary, kirstjen nielsen is visiting the border as president trump backs off his threat to shut down the border this week. the new warning and updated deadline for mexico ahead. and we're waiting for the chicago police union to make what

. >> so that was part of fbi director chris wray describing the cyber threat to the country that it facesight now from hostile foreign actors in response to local governments already busy beefing up the election security in anticipation of 2020. a new call for a look into concern of election security on friday. now, one of those that -- of those states is state of michigan which the president won by only 10,704 votes. that's in 2016. now the state is using $10 million in federal money received under a spending bill last year to try to protect its election systems. i like to go to michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. ma dom secretary, thank you for being with us. you know, there is that concern of what happened in 2016. as you know, the state of michigan was directly/indirectly mentioned in the mueller report. there was an example of a fake twitter account. that was then retweeted by a candidate, the republican nominee at this point. what is your concern looking towards 2020 and then, of course, what are you doing to prevent that from happening? >> we need to do everything to detect

interesting witnesses including bill barr and the special counsel himself, mueller and the fbi director, chris wrayas of tonight, the house judiciary chairman issued a brand new subpoena to former white house counsel, don mcbeggan. this is a big deal. this marks the first to trump's white house employees. surnt or fuller. >> calls on mcbegan to hand over documents and testifying hearing on may 21st. you are planning to go on vacation in the third week of may, you should coancel that. don mcbegan seems to be the key witness in at at least three on ju just. he includes trump asking miguel to tell jeff sessions that he should unrecuse himself from over seaing the russia investigation. snoo >> trump ordered, the president later pressuring don mcgahn to deny that he ever relieved that order from the president mcgahn is memorable by, he needed to qk because the president was asking h i am to do crazy -- rhymes with submit. >> so if don mcbeggan is going testify, you would want to see that. there will be a fight over that. s the white house's counsel is not the president's lawyer. >> the who i say counsel

and i think this director, i think chris wray is looking at all of that and is never going to let itappen again. the compare the bureau to, you know, to gru to the russians somehow, maybe a little strong. but i can see how it appears to people. but by the same token, it is being addressed right now prior to us ever speaking. but i think it will put a lid on this ever occurring again. david: the 25doj or fbi officials have retired, quit or been demoted. clearly there's an aftereffect. that's a better target record than what mr. mueller has. what about the section of the report dealing with obstruction of justice. we heard jack saying that's a short trip by conservatives. some people say mueller went much too far -- these are unsubstantiatesubstantiated chat usually don't end up in a prosecutor's report. we had a couple hundred pages on this stuff. was that proper for mr. mueller to put that in there? >> i'm looking at that and i say, first of all, i have trouble getting my head around obstruction, because if there were no -- if there was no lie vegas of thviolation of the lawd anyone

here's chris wray. >> have you had occasion to read the mueller report? >> i have not. >> that's quite a conversation there. if this was conducted to gain information for counter intelligence purposes to find out what they were up to in this country, maybe they should look at the chinese, too. >> they are. >> why did they go to the fbi director? >> it's misleading. he has been briefed by what was found in the counter intelligence aspect and i wish they asked him that question, but the mueller report is held to a small group of people. he will read it eventually. >> i want to know if he said can i see the report, would they say no? how about the cia director? even think if that was the reason to create the documents to give them to the pros so they would know what to do to be careful of the russians. >> the criminal stuff is surp vise ed by mueller. there is no independent investigator for that. the person who makes the call is the president of the united states. there being a situation in which the president himself would be questioned on the issue of his

there was damage by declassi declassifying material that chris wray objected to. what can the democrats do now that they're badge ck in contro that committee? >> i know that chairman adam schiff has been trying to bring the committee back to some sort of regular functioning, but i think it's really difficult. i think once that damage has been done, it's not going to be repaired in a year or 100 days or even over a session of congress to restore it to the way that it used to work. and here i think the damage with the attorney general is that his memo now we know wasn't just a theory. it was a road map for how he would conduct himself from day one. and given that, i think democrats are not going to have a choice but to really press forward, demand the mueller report and all of the data that went into preparing it. and they also are going to have to say, you've got to come back, and there may be other witnesses who have to come back in order to bring that integrity to the process. i think, you know, at this stage, barr has made really clear, i'm going to be an engine

attacks about the fbi because i think the fbi is an outstanding organization, and i think, you know, chris wrayfor me. i'm very pleased that he's there as the director. if it becomes necessary to look over some former officials' activities, i suspect i will be relying heavily on chris and work closely with him in looking at that information. but that's what i'm doing. i feel like i have an obligation to make sure that government power is not abused. i think that's one of the principle roles of the attorney general. >> i certainly agree. i think we all have an obligation to ensure that government power is not abused. the question i have is what happens when the executive is potentially playing that role? and that's where it doesn't seem to me there has been adequate oversight. thank you, mr. chairman. >> senator collins? >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome, mr. attorney general. last june your predecessor attorney general sessions said the administration would no longer confirm the affordable care act's pre-existing conditions because they were unseparable from the aca's individual mandate. two

as fbi director chris wray said just today, the russians are at it. they are not going away, they are continuing this kind of operation to this day. >> ken delaney, nbc news intelligence and national security reporter. i want to bring in investigative journalist greg gorgeous ddon. maria butina, and the nra and its influence are coming together here. >> yes, they are, and she sort of surfaced, we wrote a story about two years ago saying that the fbi chs investigating whether alexander, the deputy governor of russia's central bank but also a man who has been accused in the past by spanish authority of laundering money for the russian mob, whether he was trying to influence -- i'm sorry, whether he was trying to funnel money into the nra in a secretive way, and so that's a puzzle that remains. it's got -- there's so many lingering questions about this because the trump campaign's biggest supporter was the nra. here he is at the convention. you note that he skipped three straight white house correspondents but he's made it three years to the nra. >> the

has been described in the mueller volume one, about how many different effort, multiple efforts, chris wray talked about this on the council of foreign relations as head of fbi, not that everyone was a major player. some of them were more better trained and more effective or not, but she was part of this massive effort to gain influence in america. >> that's correct. the russian influence operations have three levels. there's the state to state, the party to party, and the people to people aspects of it. butina was really part of that party to party relationship. let's go in and let's work with groups that are sympathetic potentially to our cause. she picked two. the nra and gun rights movement. the other part the national prayer breakfast. let's build relations with them to elevate a pro-russian position, pro-russian foreign policy position. she knew what she was doing, it talked about the need to essentially hide the kremlin hand. it's not seen as propaganda. this is a very classic approach. it's an agent of influence. we oftentimes get confused in the u.s. because we watch a lot of tv ab

. >> you can see chris wray, the current fbi director at odds now with president trump. and the same way dan coats, his cia director and other folks are at odds with him and remain so with russia. >> yes. first of all russia and white nationalism in the united states are not unrelated. russia loves to fan this stuff. when anything like this happens, the troll bots are out in full force. there is any number of russian agents trying to fan this. they see this as the achille's heel of american life and see donald trump as an important agent in exacerbating that divide, which i think he has done through dog whistles or susingt cli in some cases. it's unclear to me whether he were sitting here or kellyanne conway were sitting here they would say helsinki or charlottesville were mistakes. it seems that ambiguity is something they're content to sit with. >> one of the things i talk about in my book what the rus a russians did during the election. putin's advisers talk about them being the last white christian state. they support a lot of these folks on fortune and gab and these

fbi director chris wray told the troops at the fbi that he is very much concerned about it and he is putting more resources, analysts and agents to focus on russian meddling in 2020, dan. >> tara palmeri, thank you so much. a lot to talk about this morning, so let's bring in our ringer, abc news chief political analyst matthew dowd. matt, you just heard tara talking about russia so let me ask you a question about the russia investigation. we've got new numbers this morning from the new abc news/"washington post" poll. the first number, 58% say they believe the president lied to the public about matters the special counsel investigated. the second number, only 37% say cunningham should -- congress should impeach him. so to your eyes is there a disconnect here? >> no, i don't think there is a disconnect. i think part of what's happened is at this moment in time the public has baked in the president's dishonesty and watched it happen so often and really since the campaign about how many misstatements he's made and actual lies he's said. they've actually baked it in so they haven't trans

chris wray.deo clip] don't assume that will be an issue in 2020, do you believe that we internationally or locally, how comfortable are you with what's being done to protect our election infrastructure? hand we've made in norma's strides since 2016 by different fed -- enormous strides since 2016 by different officials, and social media companies. but we recognize that our adversaries will keep adapting and upping their game. we are viewing 2018 as a dress rehearsal for the big show in 2020. host: that was christopher wray this morning. go to c-span.org if you want to see what he had to say this morning. douglas, in staten island, a democrat. what's your take on the 2020 field? c-span, iank you for always appreciate it. joe biden coming in, i see the media is flocking to them, saying he's going to be the guy that's going to be donald trump -- beat donald trump. he has to go through primaries, he's from the dnc wing, the bill clinton set this up with repot -- with democrats getting money from big b

to hear attacks about the fbi because i think the fbi is an outstanding organization and i think chris wray is a great partner for me. i'm very pleased he's the director. if it becomes necessary to look over some former officials' activities, i expect i'll be relying heavily on chris and work closely with him in looking at that information. but that's what i'm doing. i feel i have an obligation to make sure that government power is not abused. i think that's one of the principal roles of the attorney general. >> i certainly agree. i think we all have an obligation to make sure government power is not abused. the question i have is what happens when the executive is potentially playing that role? that's where it doesn't seem to me there has been adequate oversight. thank you, mr. chairman. >> senator collins. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome, mr. attorney general. last june your predecessor, then attorney general sessions, announced that the department would no longer defend the affordable care act's preexisting conditions conditions because they were inseverable from the aca's individual

yesterday his fbi director chris wray put the ongoing effort by russia to interfere with our democracy in perspective. >> the fairly aggressive campaign we saw in 2016 and described in special counsel's report and has continued pretty much unabated we're very much viewed in 2018 as kind of a dress rehearsal for the big show, 2020. >> and people thought 2016 was the big show. so a lot to get into. let's start right there. glenn, i saw you nodding after we talked about what rosenstein supposedly said about landing the plane. why? >> you know when i read that yesterday, i was reminded of one of my favorite sayings by abraham lincoln, be sure to plant your feet in the right place, then stand firm. nobody can accuse rod rosenstein of planting his feet in the right place and standing firm. this is a man who was so concerned that in a one-on-one conversation with president trump, trump could not be counted on to accurately portray what went on in that conversation, and rosenstein was so concerned about that, he's like you know what, if i'm going to talk to the president one on one, maybe i sh

to hear attacks about the fbi because i think the fbi is an outstanding organization and i think chris wray is a great partner for me and i am glad he is there as a director. if it becomes necessary to look over former officials' activities, i suspect i will be relying heavily on chris and look closely with him on looking at that information. that is what i am doing. i feel i have an obligation to make sure government power is not abused. i think that is one of the principal roles of the attorney general. host: the headline on matt mccovey act --met's headline in the washington times looking -- saying barr closely looking into crossfire hurricane. here is what matt writes in that column. if laws were broken, those individuals should be prosecuted just as americans believe anyone who conspired or coordinated with russia in the election deserved to face up on emmett -- face punishment. the hunters have now been on the move for two years, now they are the hunted. matt in today's washington times. we want to hear from you. republicans, 202-748-8001. democrats, 202-748-8000. independents, 202-74

i wonder what is going through the mind of chris wray, o has been vilified and his people have been vilified runs with it and calls his opponents treacherous, calls them traitors. owe it's quite a thing for someone in barr's position. he is spes to upposed to be lea these people. he really owes those people app apology. it will be very interesting to see if we start hearing unsourced or on-the-record sort of leaks and complaints and things starring o come out. i wouldn't be surprised. >> jeffrey, i don't understand him doing this. he knows about the fisa judges, he knows the procedural safeguards that were taken. he knows there was no conspiracy. why would he set himself up to be a fool in the end? >> because he's been pulled into the reality distortion field of the white house? we don't know. we see people whom we respect who get involved in the administration and wind up saying very odd things. i stepped all the way back because i read a lot about the history of the fbi and you have an organization that has been venerated by the republicans, much more so than the democrats. you have main s

is an outstanding organization and i think chris wray is a great partner for me and i'm very pleaseds the director. if it becomes necessary to look over some former officials' activities, i expect i will be relying heavily on chris and relying on him and that's what i'm doing. i feel i have an obligation to make sure government power is not abused. i think that's one of the principle roles of the attorney general. >> i certainly agree. i think we all have on an obligation to insure government power is not abused. the question i have is what happens when the executive is potentially playing that role and that's where it doesn't seem to me there has been adequate oversight. thank you, mr. chairman. >> senator collins. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome, mr. attorney general. last june your predecessor announced that the department would no longer defend the affordable care act's pre-existing conditions provisions because they were inexcepterable from the aca individual mandate. two weeks ago your department decided it would not defend any provisions of the aca. this puts at risk other

i think chris wray is a great partner for me and i am very pleased he is there as the director. if it becomes necessary to look over some former officials activities i expect i will be relying heavily on chris and work closely with him in looking at that information. that is what i am doing. i feel i have an obligation to make sure government power is not abused. i think that is one of the principal roles of the attorney general. >> i certainly agree and i think we all have an obligation to ensure government power is not abused. the question i have is what happens when the executives is potentially playing that role? that is where it doesn't seem to me there has been adequate oversight. thank you. >> thank you mr. chairman. welcome mr. attorney general. last june your predecessor then attorney general sessions announced the department would no longer defend the affordable care act pre- existing conditions provisions because they were inseparable from the aca individual mandate. two weeks ago your department went much further deciding it would not defend any provisions of the aff