so the very first person i interviewed was a guy named chris wright, he was a lawyer in california, i found him from a press release from his alma mater, university he southern california, where he had donated $2 million and he was the second millionaire in his family, his father was born a slave in louisiana, and i realized over the course of my journey, we joke about this, i realized that i became a lot like my father, right, so i thought that who i was was based on my own experience, that i was, you know, this person, you know, who traveled the world, who has this great education and i evolved into someone because of me, and as i watched my father throughout the course of 10 years, i realized i was a lot like him, so -- which was very disturbing, because i'm thinking i'm in control of who i am, right, so chris wright, the very first interview -- well, serious interview, i spent two months with him in california, and he was a millionaire, and i set him up, to kind of see i was a lot like my father, what was a self-made millionaire, how is a self-made millionaire a lot like his and y