. - yeah, there was a hell of a lot of other books that, even within our wheelhouse that chrissie hynde and kim gordon. - [evan] well, the chrissie hynde book's really good, that's right, yeah. - yeah, there's a lot that didn't make the cut. yeah, who'd have thunk that. - who would imagine. (chuckling) very quickly, the origin story for x. you and billy zoom were the people who started this band, exene was your girlfriend at the time? - no, just someone i-- - or a friend. - friend, yeah. i met her at this writing workshop, called the venice poetry workshop. still going on. - so she was more of a poet than a band member. - yeah, she was a writer, she didn't know what she was. none of us knew what we were. she'd knew she wanted to get out of tallahassee, florida, that's what she knew. (chuckling) - how'd she get connected with the band, then? - she had a song called, she had written a poem and had made it into a song called, i'm coming over. and it was just, i'm coming over, i'm coming over, so move over. and i said, well i played along with the way she sang, and it was clear what kind of