is it now open season on christians? >> it is open season on christians.slamists have risen up and blown up christians in their churches as they worship on sunday morning, as we saw with the protestant church in pakistan last weekend. scores of coptic orthodox and protestant and catholic churches in egypt were blown up or destroyed by angry mobs, escaping the cops in august. syria, i heard that a quarter of the population of christians now, half a million people, have been displaced from their homes. and many of them are targeted for their faith. >> george: why are journalists missing this catastrophe, especially those in the so-called mainstream media. >> i think they have a blind spot, as many of our national media do as well. it's had a very record in getting the story straight and really connecting the dots. seeing the pattern. it is not just happening here or there. it is really happening across the muslim world, particularly in the middle east, and in south central asia. and it is because there is a rising fanatical strain of islam in those places. >

as christians, we should fight against any tax dollars funding any persecution of christians.ause] in zanzibar, a tiny little island off the coast of africa, a priest was recently shot in the head on his way to church by two muslim youths. a message by the muslim renewal said we thank our young men, trained in somalia, for killing the infidel. many more will die. we will burn homes and churches. we will not finish. at easter, be prepared for disaster. in kenya, muslims broke the legs of a pastor. in indonesia, the world's most populous muslim nation, three girls were beheaded on the way to their christian school. make no mistake, there is an element of radical jihad in this. in guinea, christians were killed. in egypt, 82 churches were attacked, leaving hundreds dead and wounded. earlier this year, i forced the senate to vote to defund the muslim brotherhood, and every democrat -- [applause] every democrat voted to continue sending your money to the muslim brotherhood. i can tell you one thing, though, as long as i am in the senate, i will fight against sending any money to th

the relatively low number of christians, christian-run orphanages, hospitals, and schools still thrive. many of the country's muslim elite attended christian schools. ♪ principal irene pearl says trinity methodist girls school is committed to admitting children from poor families, many of them from the christian minority. but there's no hint in the morning prayer of trinity's religious affiliation. >> we do not talk or quote the holy bible. we say let us be good human beings. let us be good daughters, let us be good pakistanis, but above all let us be good human beings. >> reporter: it is illegal in pakistan for a muslim to convert to any other faith, and pearl wants to dispel any notion that the school is trying to convert muslims, who account for 60% of her students. >> i have to be extremely careful how i word myself. sometimes, you know, like we have a christmas concert. the children want to participate, the muslim children want to participate, but i say no, get a permission letter from your parents. >> reporter: she thinks muslim parents are mostly satisfied that their children ar

as christians, we should fight against any tax dollars funding any persecution of christians.se] in zanzibar, a tiny little island off the coast of africa and a priest was recently shot in the head on his way to church by two muslim youths. a message by the muslim renewal said we thank our young men, and trained in somalia, for killing the infidel. many more will die. we will burn homes and churches. we will not finish. at easter, be prepared for disaster. in kenya, muslims broke the legs of a pastor. in indonesia, the world's most populous muslim nation, three girls were beheaded on the way to their christian school. make no mistake, there is an element of radical jihad in this. in guinea, christians were killed. in egypt, 82 churches were attacked, leaving hundreds dead and wounded. earlier this year, i forced the senate to vote to defund the muslim brotherhood, and every democrat -- [applause] and every democrat voted to continue sending your money to the muslim brotherhood. i can tell you one thing and though, as long as i am in the senate, i will fight against sending any

has he fully embraced christianity, is he five steps shy, is he in favor of a christianity apart from the person of christ on whom we never have a firm and clear proclamation, those are the questions that continue to hang in the air. but what we know is that in 1860 when lincoln's running for president and ultimately, of course, wins the presidency, this is a man who discuss believe of in a god, who has spoken often of the god of the nation, spoken often of god's work throughout american history, who somehow has had at least a half turning at that point. now, let me use the bookends of abraham lincoln's two magnificent speeches, the first and the second inaugural, to show you the change that happens to him while he's in office. because this is the next big phase. you have the atheist phase, you have the period of turning in springfield, and then he becomes sort of the loosely-christian statesman and lawyer, and now you have the president. but there's a big change that happens while lincoln is in the white house, and this, i think, so important. if you -- i hope you will read the magni

christianity? in favor of a christianity apart from christ? those are the questions that hang in the air but when he is running for president and wins, he does believe in a guide and who is speaking often of his work in and somehow has had a half turning at that point. now let me use the book ends of abraham lincoln's to magnificent speeches to show you the change that happens all he is in office because this is the next big face. you have atheist, the period of turning in springfield where they were the loosely christian statesman now you have the president but there is a big change that happens while he is in the white house and this is so important and i think. as i hope you read the magnificent first and second inaugural addresses the languages beautiful he and it is hard to believe he wrote it himself to be interested in the influence of his mother, the bible in shakespeare and his amazing intelligence then we can see it more clearly. in the first inaugural you understand the country is coming

the relatively small number of christians, several christian institutions-- orphanages, hospitals, and especially schools-- remain strong and open to all faiths. many of the country's muslim elite attended christian schools. principal irene pearl says trinity methodist girls school is committed to admitting children from poor families, many of them from the christian minority. but there's no hint of christ in the morning prayer. >> we do not talk or quote the holy bible or anything. we say, "let us be good human beings, let us be good daughters, let us be good pakistanis, but above all let us be good human beings." >> reporter: it is illegal in pakistan for a muslim to convert to any other faith, and pearl wants to dispel any notion that the school is trying to convert muslims, who account for about 60% of her students. >> sometimes, you know, like, we have a christmas concert, the children want to participate, the muslim children want to participate, but i say, no, they have to get a permission letter from their parents, because you never know. >> reporter: although she thinks muslim

christian is the right term. i follow jesus as best i can. >> host: on your travels and in your search what did you find across america when it comes to establish religions, established christian religions and gay and whether or not that it's acceptable? >> guest: if you look at american history you find reactions across the entire spectrum. you find open hostility and you find great silent discomfort. you find embrace. it really depends on where you look. the thing about all of this is though most of these people are trying their best to do what they think is right and i think the motive does matter in a lot of the situations. most people are trying to be loving even if it doesn't feel like love to some of the rest of us. >> host: can you give an example? >> guest: so the hardest example for people to accept from westborough baptist church in topeka kansas. when i went very very much wanted to dislike the church. they are so angry. it seems like they are so hateful and yet they tried to explain to me that what t

i mean how much more american can you be than being a christian and an evangelical christian nonetheless? at the time i wasn't even a legal citizen. certainly my conversion to christianity gave me a sense of belonging but i don't want to make it sound as if it were a conversion of convenience. i really, truly, burned with this faith. >> and then you began at some point, and maybe you could tell us about these moments, when you began to have questions. because you were talking to people. who were expressing doubts about the story. and what did you do in response to that? >> i think when -- during my years of preaching this gospel, i would as you say encounter many people who had doubts and who would implant those doubts in me. but i think part of the fundamentalist lifestyle is learning how to wash clear those doubts, those questions, when confronted with something that does not fit with what you believe, you just simply treat it as an attack. >> the fundamentalist lifestyle, approach. >> which is why to be perfectly honest with you i have an enormous amount of compassion for some of the

as christians, we should fight against any tax dollars funding any persecution of christians.plause] in zanzibar, a tiny little island off the coast of africa, a priest was recently shot in the head on his way to church by two muslim youths. a message by the muslim renewal said we thank our young men, trained in somalia, for killing the infidel. many more will die. we will burn homes and churches. weredonesia, three girls headed on the where to -- on the way to their school. there is an element of radical jihad in this. in guinea, christians were killed. in egypt, 82 churches were attacked, leaving hundreds dead and wounded. earlier this year, i forced the senate to vote to defund the muslim brotherhood, and every democrat -- [applause] every democrat voted to continue sending your money to the muslim brotherhood. i can tell you one thing, though, as long as i am in the senate, i will fight against sending any money to the muslim brotherhood. [applause] in cameroon recently, two christians were murdered. in iran, american pastor is detained indefinitely, facing physical and ps

guinea christians were killed.pt, 82 churches were attacked, leaving hundreds dead and wounded. earlier this year, i forced the senate to vote to defund the muslim brotherhood, and every democrat -- [applause] every democrat voted to continue sending your money to the muslim brotherhood. thing,ell you one though, as long as i am in the senate, i will fight against sending any money to the muslim brotherhood. [applause] in cameroon recently, two christians were murdered. isiran, american pastor detained indefinitely, facing physical and psychological torture. they asked him to renounce his faith. the same thing they asked the person before he was killed. i have interest and resolution introduced ai have resolution that says we should do everything within our power, and our voice, from the white house, from the state department, from our government to release this man. [applause] until the not rest pastor is free. globe christians are under attack. almost as if we lived in the middle ages or we lived under early paga

for christian morality and world view. we use the phrase born again these days. thank you. but then on the other hand, the more scholarly side, the more university-or yen ended biography would present him an atheist. you have the complete i did cot my and presentation. then you run in to a few facts about lincoln's life. all you are to is read the necked inauguration address. which is, you know, right there on the side of the lincoln memorial. you think this is like a serving. quote, scriptture, speaks of god's will for the world and the nation. understands the civil war and a theological framework. how could the man be an atheist? we have two streams really. we have people arrayed along the spectrum. for me, the issue is i certainly can have my biases but the issue is to find what the truth is, even if the truth it a journey that is incomplete, i think in lynn lincoln life's life the journey is incomplete. i think it's part of our problem. his life was cut short and i think that we have to slow down a bit not be eager to

of christians. zanzibar, a tiny island off priestcoast of africa, a was shot in the head going to muslims.y two ourokesperson said we thank young men killing the infidel. many more will die. finished.t at easter, be prepared for disaster. motorcycle assailants hurtled bombs into a christian hurch injuring 15 people and breaking the legs of the pastor. n indonesia, the world's most populous muslim nation, three girls were beheaded on the way christian school. make no mistake, there's an lement of radical jihad in this. in guinea this year, a muslim 95 attacked and killed christians and injured 130. in egypt recently, 82 churches attacked leaving hundreds dead and wounded. earlier this year, i forced the vote, to defund the brotherhood and every democrat -- [ applause ] democrat voted to continue sending your money to the muslim brotherhood. tell you one thing, though, as long as i'm in the fight against sending any money to the muslim brotherhood. [ applause ] in cameroon recently, two from ians that

their targets were a christian congregation at the church of the virgin mary. the people had been attending a wedding and were just leaving when the gunmen arrived. >> translator: we were running and when i arrived i found a woman sitting on a chair with bullet wounds and blood coming out from everywhere and it was a difficult sight and a child had been shot in the leg and shoulder. >> reporter: the local parish priest said although the target was a christian church this was an attack on the entire country. . >> translator: what happened is an insult and not directed only at the christians and we are destroying our own country and imagine what people outside of egypt will think when they hear that something like this happened. we are an internationally known church. >>> christians makeup 10% of the 84 million population. in resent months dozens of churches have been attacked across the country fueling tensions between christians and the majority muslim population. it's understood the church of the virgin mary had been left unguarded for several months. the head

amanpour, and, christiane, this young woman is now 16 years of age. she a passionate. she has conviction. where does it come from? >> you know, i think she's a prodigy. every time i see her, i'm just absolutely stunned by how ungirllike she is and how incredibly womanlike she is. she's able to articulate her dreams and desires and passions even after being shot in the head only a year ago. she was so lucky that the bullet didn't pierce her bones, her brain, rather, some bone fragments did, but she's made a remarkable recovery and she consistently keeps up that spirit of really revolutionary zeal and that is to bring education to all pakistan but most especially to girls. and you wonder where does she get this from. >> right. >> she comes from a small village. >> she comes from a small village. this is all about education, and the world, christiane, knows so much of her story, but there's so much that we don't because we know she went to this pakistani hospital. she was then flown to birmingham. and i know there was this british doctor, dr. reynolds, w

christian wiman says people today are seeking a new language for speaking about god.oes beyond words, concepts, or even doctrine, that taps into a genuine experience of the divine, what he calls glimmers of god. >> if you ask me, do i get glimpses of god, yes, i get these glimmerings of intuitions stronger than that really, where the existence of god seems to me absolute. we all go through our lives and then suddenly, we'll have a moment when we think, “i have faith right now in something.” i find that i've had these moments in my life when i have been overcome by what i only know to call god. “think of the atoms inside the stone. think of the man who sits alone trying to will himself into the stillness where god goes belonging.” in my experience, the artists that i know, even though they wouldn't call themselves christians -- some would -- but they are the ones who are fighting to remake some kind of language to connect us with the ineffable, with the divine. if we think that metaphor is how we talk of god, and that seems to me very hard to dispute that there's any o

christianity. an old baptist preacher of the last century said that religious coercion can make hypocrites, but it cannot make believers. that is what i believe to be true. we need an open, free society in the public square. that does not mean we say all viewpoints are equally true and we ought to shut down the conversation. host: next call from marianne in massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am calling from the commonwealth of massachusetts. first of all, about the affordable care act, we have had it working fine for many years now. in the beginning, or were bumps. -- there were bumps. everybody had a bit of sticker shock. now it is working fine here. i ask everybody to be patient. it is a good law. not one of my family or friends -- nobody has ever complained about it. host: is that all you have marianne? caller: i have something else. real quick. here in massachusetts, i really appreciate that our state is very tolerant of our fellow citizens. 20 years ago my daughter's first-

what is your christianity today?>> guest: i attended the reform america church in brooklyn, new york called old first and i am an elder there. i think my faith, like that as many people goes through peaks and valleys. their ups and downs, good days and bad days. i would be lying if i said fates for me was the consistent thing. it's a struggle, something you work on. you look for god wherever you can find evidence of god. you try to hang onto faith in those hard times and then you rejoice when you find high points and moments for me, which tend to be in nature to feel triumphant and feel like they pulled me closer to something divine. >> host: are you a christian today? >> guest: yeah, i would use the word christian. sometimes than troubled by the basics of the language. like when we see in the jellicle, what do we mean? with a conservative, what do we mean? it's hard, the christian is the right term. i follow jesus as best i can. >> host: on your travels, injures urge, what did you find across america when it comes t

christianity. an old baptist speech -- preacher said it can make hypocrites but it can't make believers. that's what i believe to be truth. we need an open, free society in the public square. we doesn't mean we say all viewpoints are equally true and we ought to shut down the conversation. >> host: the next call for the reverend dr. mussel moore comes from mary ann in massachusetts. >> caller: hi. thank you for taking my call. i'm calling from massachusetts. the commonwealth of massachusetts, and first of all, just about the affordable care act we've had it working here fine for many year now. in the beginning the first couple of years, yes, there were bumping, you know, everybody had a lienal -- little bit of sticker shock. years down the road it's working fine here. i ask everybody to be patient. it's a good law. nobody, not one of my family or friends anybody has ever complained about it. >> is that all you've got? >> caller: no, i have something else to say. >> host: very quickly. >> caller: re

. >> we've seen continued persecution and killings of christian minorities in egypt.erty institute shows a sharp increase in incidence of religious hostility in recent years. let's bring in our faith panel. reclaiming the american christian spirit and bill donna who president of the catholic league. do you believe that hostility has doubled in the last year? >> there is no question that during the obama administration that there has been a anti-tilt that -- let me give you examples. in the military we have people who are speaking to young cadets and telling them that the extremists that they have to look after and be concerned about are evangelical christians. janet nepolitano spoke a few years ago about the dangers of catholics so we see this happ happening. >> seniors at senior citizen's centers can't pray before meals. do you agree with the rabbi? >> i agree with him but it is worse than that i would say. i have been doing this job for 20 years. the largest section used to be the media but now it is government. an hour ago i put up on my website where a professor c

this is between christians and non-christians among others. everyone in lebanon lost relatives and lost friends or know people who have lost friends. among muslims in lebanon, to where 97% of people have an unfavorable view of jews can't go despite this much much more intense and long-lasting conflict on this intensive scale with christians only 14 to 17% say they haven't done favorable view of christians. it's not conflict per se that produces this. his conflict in existing prejudice which is what anti-semitism is. global anti-semitism is more deadly than ever. it's not to like more expressly murderous than the nazis ever express themselves. i enormous number of non-jews but the imagery the calls to extermination, the calls to brutality are far more frequent than far more open and far more unreserved and anything you would have sounded nazis germany in the 1930s or publicly in the 1940s. and the threat is real. as one rwandan, 12 mass murder of tutsi explained after the genocide the beliefs they have to put it very welcome to the police they

do you believe, then, that christian gerhartstreiter also killed linda? >> yes. >> yeah.elieve she probably met a similar fate to my brother. >> reporter: do you think we'll ever know what happened to linda? >> not unless he decides to confess. >> reporter: i was curious how the jury felt about linda and had the opportunity to ask the foreperson. did you feel linda had anything to do with it? >> i... i didn't. >> reporter: so, did you believe at the end of the trial that if christian gerhartstreiter killed john, he probably killed linda, too? >> yes. >> reporter: do you think we'll ever really know what happened to linda sohus? >> i hope so. >> reporter: los angeles county sheriff lee bacca. was justice done in this case? >> yes and no. there's no real justice in a murder case; you'll never bring back the victims. but we're happy we solved this case, and the ingenuity of the homicide detectives and all their colleagues on the federal and local level are to be cheered for this. >> your honor, i can only say once again that i... i want to assert my innocence and that i firm

they weren't trying to steer it to christians. there is a lot of diversity between catholics, baptists and pentecostals. to lump them together paints a misleading picture that this was somehow a plain va nil uh la christian set of prayers being said. >> what was the town supposed to do if it is 85 or 90% christian? did they have to go outside of greece new york and find a congress nation or synagogue or something other than christian in order to comply with the constitution in your view? >> they have options. a lot of communities get down to business. they don't have a prayer service before the meeting. >> are you arguing prayer is unconstitutional? opening it up? >> if this council wanted religious expression before the meeting they could get together and it could be as krip as they want it to be every week. they seem to want a public expression which in our view sends it is message to those outside the system that they are second-class citizens, that the government is de facto christian. if you don't believe that, well, you are

especially if you are christian christian -- you don't have to be christian but if you are christianpeople or isa maze. how did you get to be christian? i'm from nazareth. and understand the, how did you get to be christian? this is part of it as well and also making those connections. i was talking with a young egyptian woman and i was saying how when i was in school i learned about egypt and how amazing it was but then i didn't know that egypt now was the same country. ancient egypt was amazing but modern egypt was an arab place. these are the things we have to do to make connections. we have to cannot bet it's the same place and it's got a long history. we can be proud of ancient egypt and also be proud of modern egypt. well, i don't know. >> it question over here and let's try to take a couple of questions at a time. over here and here. >> thank you very much for this wonderful presentation. the question i have is this. in my case i am a japanese-american and asian-american and asian identity as well as an american. they are multiple entities but they overlap quite a bit. i'm ver

the christians make up 10% of the population.n resent months dozens of churches have been attacked across the country. fueling tensions between christians and the muslim populations. it's understood the church of the virgin mary had been left undeunguarded for several month. the head of the church says the officers will increase their patrols outside of churches following this attack. >> australian firefighters are bracing for what they describe for an unparalleled fire fire emergency in the next few days. there is a thought that the fires could join up and create one huge fire. the state of emergency has been declared there. andrew thomas with more. >> the most of the concern is the weather is ge getting worse. it's getting hotter and windier. notably windier on monday morning and over the next 48 hours it will get hotter still. two or three huge bush fires meemight join to form what is cominsome arecalling a mega fir. already it's a state of emergency and giving authorities a right to enter and an demolish a person's house. joh

that comes out of two strands of politicized christianity one is christian reconstructionism who are people who are overt theocrats and then what some of us call charismatic dominionism basically they're the charismatic wing of the christian right these are the people who cast out demons and so on but they're heavily politically involved and they they represent more than the foot soldiers of the movement so anyway. ted cruz his father is encouraging believers to take dominion and so ted cruz is their guy as far as i can tell is the king back in ninety nine i spent a week with his holiness the dalai lama. they they made a movie out of it back to harrison ford narrated it and and the thing that astounded me other than you know that his holiness was really a pretty amazing guy was that literally from his first ability to speak he had been told that he was the reincarnation of a bit of a divine being essentially. and you can see how that shaped him in actually a fairly positive way and just imagine what kind of impact that would have on somebody is it possible a ted cruz since he was a c

he said, i am a christian. if you must kill me for being a christian, do it.ere his last words. the president needs to speak out about this. we need to not gloss over that there is a religious component to this. since 9/11 we have been apologizing and saying, oh, this isn't the islamic religion. it's not all of islam. it's a minority, but it is not one in a million. it's about 10%. in england there were 500,000 people who said the subway bombings, i sympathize with killing british citizens in the subway through violence. that's alarming that there is that large of a percentage -- 10 to 15% of islam saying violence against christians and unarmed noncombatants is okay. that's alarming. >> what should our president be doing differently on that? >> speak out about it. we should quit sending money to these countries. we spend over a million dollars to pakistan. there is a woman on death row for blasphemy. she said she drew water from a muslim well and they beat her and charged her with blaspheming. she said she just tried to drink from a muslim's well. the presiden

this is between christians and non-christians, among others. everyone in lebanon lost relatives and lost friends on know people who have lost friends. the whole society was involved and scarred, and many died. among muslims in lebanon, where 97% of the people have an unfavorable view of jews, despite is much, much, much more intense and long lasting conflict, this intensive scale with christians, only 14-70% say they have an unfavorable view of christians. so it's not conflict per se that produces this. it's conflict in the context of existing prejudice, which is what anti-semitism is. global anti-semitism is more deadly than ever. it is treachery like him even more explicitly murders than the transport express them to be. they killed an enormous number of non-jews, but the imagery, the calls to extermination, the calls to brutality are far more frequent, far more open, far more unreserved in anything you would've found him naz nazi gery in the 1930s, or even publicly and the 1940s. and the threat is real. as one rwandan, a mass murder of to se

the country's blasphemy law has been widely used to persecute christians. pakistan has been under scandal for the lack of religious freedom in the country. over 700 people have lost their lives to religious violence since january of last year, a u.s. report said in july. >> it's time now for a break, but stay tuned after the break. the u.s. counsel targeted a renaissance-headed province. bangladesh's leader gets tried for 1971 war crimes. violence continues unabated in afghanistan. the taliban targeting foreign troops and establishments. they targeted a u.s. consulate while a nato convoy was targeted in kandahar. we have a detailed report. >> the taliban attacked a u.s. consulate in western afghanistan with car bombs and guns on september 13, killing at least four afghans but failing to enter the compound or hurt any americans. the attacks underscored concerns about the insurgency that shows no signs of letting up as u.s.- led troops reduce their presence ahead of a full withdrawal next year. the u.s. temporarily evacuated many of its personnel to the embas

it is a dangerous time to be a christian conservative. they are running ads against randy forbes trying to disparage him for being part of the american families association banquet today and for being here. there are threats being made. we all know that a little more than a year ago, a man came into the offices of the family research council because he had looked on the southern poverty law center's website and found hate groups and gone into the building with the idea he would commit mass murder with a bag of chick-fil-a sandwiches they would stuff -- he was stuffed into their mouths. the southern poverty law center has refused to apologize or express regret and they have refused to remove the names of the family research council and the american family association on their list -- from their list of hate groups. we know there are people on the left that our french groups. they do not have much influence and they are free to hate, even in this country. they may tell you something about why this is important. the southern poverty law cent

what we are seeing is systemic persecution not just christians but muslims.ave enough to speak out against this, brave enough to say minorities in the muslim world deserve human rights is being targeted as an islamphobe. they're quicker to condemn criticism of islam as he did twice, once in cairo, another time at the u.n., than he is to call out islamist terrorism for what it is. they have the view it doesn't exist. islam, jihad have been purged from counteder terrorism training manuals, muslim brotherhood, spearheading the terrorist organization spearheading persecution of christians in egypt is whitewashed in counter terrorism manuals and you have all out denial. there should be a case study done about how the west is reacting or not reacting for that matter to the genocide of christians in muslim countries. >> what could they do though? what more could we do? you might think the administration doesn't want to stoke the fires, maybe they're going about it by sort of with the arm reached out to create a more kinder, gentler relationship, hoping to inspire ch

the crusades and the explorers spread christianity and christianity propagated.nothing. grace from edmonton, canada. you didn't skirt question. i appreciate your up front responses. i didn't think killing lincoln and kennedy could be topped but "killing jesus" is your best effort. don't forget martin's contributions to the books. finally tip of the day. we have been thinking about how to get the intelligent viewer more involved on the factor. we have we may have come up with something uh you will like. called the mad as he b ll segment. >> i want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it and stick your head out and yell, i'm as mad as hell, and i'm not going to take this anymore. >> we don't have to do that anymore because we have e-mail. every thursday we'll select some e-mail from folks who are supremely annoyed, angry, agitated, worked up. can be about the factor or anything else . life in the usa. life on the planet. here is what you do. write an articulate e-mail with emotion, without obscenities expressing your discontent with something. we'll s

christianity. an old baptist preacher of the last century said that religious coercion can make hypocrites, but it cannot make believers. that is what i believe to be true. we need an open, free society in the public square. that does not mean we say all viewpoints are equally true and we ought to shut down the conversation. from marianne in massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am calling from the commonwealth of massachusetts. first of all, about the affordable care act, we have had it working fine for many years now. in the beginning, or were bumps. -- there were bumps. everybody had a bit of sticker shock. now it is working fine here. i ask everybody to be patient. it is a good law. not one of my family or friends -- nobody has ever complained about it. host: is that all you have marianne? caller: i have something else. real quick. here in massachusetts, i really appreciate that our state is very tolerant of our fellow citizens. my daughter's first-grade teacher was married to

you have the christian leader. and between the two i think there's sufficient shame that my parents haven't exactly broadcast it to everyone. >> you have written up about whether or not jesus really love you. first of all what is your christianity today? >> i attended a reformed church, and american church in brooklyn, new york, called old first and i'm an elder there. i think my faith, like that of many people, goes through peaks and found. there's ups and downs to the there are good days and bad days. i think i would be lying to say that it was for me a consistent thing. it's a struggle, something you work on. you look for god whatever you can find evidence of god. you try to hang on to faith in those hard times, and then you rejoice when you find high points and moments, for me, which tend to be in nature, that feel triumphant and feel like they pulled me closer to something divine. >> are you a christian today? >> i would use the word christian. i think sometimes i'm troubled by the basics of the linkage. when

the christian bible has the epistles of st. paul, and americans have our own epistles, the federalists or what we like to call the federalist papers. and their status in the canon is also accidental. the late pauline maier wrote a wonderful book called "ratification: the people debate the constitution 1787-88," the first book-length account of ratification. and she explains that the federalists circulated almost nowhere except new york. the essays were written to procuratification by the new york -- procuratification by the new york legislature. it was by no means a passionate analysis. it is written by hamilton, madison and jay. madison had attended every day of the philadelphia convention, hamilton got there when he could, he was a busy guy. jay was not a delegate at all. maier says the authors of the federalists had no time to show each other their essays beforehanding them to the printer, in fact, sometimes they couldn't even reread their own work before it was put into type. not only that, there's every reason to believe t

christian kind of law.alth care to people that can't afford it. you have to think in some kind of absolute sense that would be consistent with the teachings of the bible. >> there is also biblical scripture about how you handle your money. $24 billion at the drop of a hat is thrown away because of what, a political pointing? >> that's right. >> are they not hypocrites? >> they're totally hypocrites. i know i'll be getting the hit on our twitter feeds tonight. >> you cannot claim fiscal responsibility and be responsible for this. >> every day the amount of money that was lost. you also can't call yours the jobs, jobs, jobs party by laying people off. this whole exercise in stupidity and using something as beautiful as any kind of scripture, it's just more proof of how it can be manipulated to serve anyone's cause. >> it is manipulated, that's a very profound point. and it just permeates throughout the entire conservative movement with their organizations. tony perkins of the family research council says it's

five christians mowed down by mass gunmen has they arrived for a wedding.e lost two of his grand daughters in the attack. maryam was just eight years old. i found little maryam she was hit by 14 bullets, he said. a little girl hit by 14 bullets. the shooting was the latest in a wave of attacks against egypt's christian minority which makes up about 10% of the country's population. christians say they are being targeted by hard liners in the muslim brotherhood after they backed the military crackdown on the islamic group. a charge the muslim brotherhood denies but since the crackdown more than 50 churches have been burned or looted. the church of the virgin mary in al musla a small village outside of cairo was attacked last august when large crowd burst through the gate and ransacked the compound. according to guards who were here that night, once the church had been completely looted, the mob then began pelting it with molotov cocktails until the entire structure was consumed by the flames. by the time it was safe for caretaker to return there was almost no