. >> jon: elliss, let me read you a quote from christian ann ahmanpower. she said nine years later the growing hostility toward muslim americans. not since 9/11 has the country seen search anti-muslim fervor and muslim-americans are feeling vulnerable. where is her proof? >> you can do a lot of interviews with muslim-americans and find quotes to back up an allegation like that. protesters stand out in front of baptist churches getting ready to reopen, maybe we'll have an argument this is a different situation. but the reality is, and i don't like to use the words like racist or phobic of any sort. . there's a lot of feeling of hostility towards muslims and in fact, a lot of people defend those feelings and i think that we do need to get a grip and hey, people have a right to practice the religion they want and we ought to be open to it, whether it's our religion or not. >> jon: the pope made the historic trip to great britain, are there parallels the way that catholic pope going to great britain was covered, versus the coverage of the imam wanting to build