pull in our political correspondent allison young he is outside the headquarters of the christian democrats the c.d.u. that i'm going to medicals party here in berlin good evening to you simon so what can we expect to come out of these talks you know the leader of the young wing of the s.p.d. he says that this coalition can only be a repeat of the past four years. he has been well although there's been a decision by social democrats to press ahead with full coalition talks with conservatives we're going to have to be a little bit more patient because the s.p.d. say that they need more time to decide exactly what how they're going to approach these talks with more personnel team in fact not going to come to the negotiations but also where they're going to try and push for some more concessions because of course so many people in the social democrat party has said that that's what they're looking for so tonight's meeting here at c.d.u. eight quarters with martin shields of the s.p.d. and the two conservative leaders is basically just to set the agenda set the timetable for talks that we expect will beg

pull in our political correspondent allison young he is outside the headquarters of the christian democrats the c.d.u. that i'm going to medicals party here in berlin good evening to you simon so what can we expect to come out of these talks you know the leader of the young wing of the s.p.d. he says that this coalition can only be a repeat of the past four years. it has been well although there's been a decision by social democrats to press ahead with full coalition talks with angela merkel's conservatives we're going to have to be a little bit more patient because the s.p.d. say that they need more time to decide exactly what how they're going to approach these talks with more personnel team in fact not going to come to negotiations but also where they're going to try and push for some more concessions because of course so many people in the social democrat party has said that that's what they're looking for so tonight's meeting here at c.d.u. ed courses with martin shields of the s.p.d. and the two conservative leaders is basically just to set the agenda set the timetable for talks that we expect

the c.d.u. the christian democrats headquarters in berlin forces our political correspondents a lot of points good evening to you a lot to happy new year so what is the result of today i mean there was a statement from the conservatives what did they say. well they said clearly progress has been made but there are no end results yet especially not before thursday before the official end of these exploratory talks they have made sure that they're they have been negotiating very hard today they said they have been making making progress but they have made sure. to really make make clear that then no entresol it's in because there were several leaks they have said that. that both parties had agreed on abandoning the goal that germany would reduce its c o two emissions by forty percent by twenty twenty that is apparently not the case so in general the statement said that the atmosphere between the two parties has been very good today and that everything now relied on the next three days the next three days when these talks are set to continue until thursday i mean what is at stake right now for the ch

the c.d.u. which is a christian democratic union to have their social values and looking at michael just as a former investment banker doesn't do his whole story just as he also was a very important part of the socialists in france so i would agree with simon we're witnessing at the moment are intelligent politicians in europe realizing that the way globalization has been conducted in the past and that the challenges of the future for example with digitalisation are such that you need to do something to make sure you have most people on board in the european union otherwise what you're going to do is just feed populism our brussels bureau chief max often tonight in brussels and simon young here in berlin to both of you thank you. here is some of the other stories now that are making headlines around the world a brazilian court has upheld the conviction of former president luis de silva known as lula on corruption charges two of the three judges on the court confirmed the conviction and the nine and a half year prison sentence it carries now lou look rallied his supporters ahead of the decision which

the c.d.u. which is a christian democratic union to have their social values and looking at michael just as a former investment banker doesn't do his whole story just as he also was a very important part of the socialists in france so i would agree with simon what we're witnessing at the moment are intelligent politicians in europe realizing that the way globalization has been conducted in the past and that the challenges of the future for example with digitalisation are such that you need to do something to make sure you have most people on board in the european union otherwise what you're going to do is just feed populism our brussels bureau chief max often tonight in brussels and simon young here in berlin to both of you thank you it's not u.s. president donald trump is mourning turkey to stop its advance into northern syria or risk confronting american troops on the ground turkey's incursion began last saturday in the region of a freed kurdish militia which helped the u.s. to defeat islamic state in syria control offering but are considered by the turkish government to be terrorists. the shut to

the christian democrats no political winter still has germany in its grip with weeks of negotiation ahead before a coalition is finally formed. his political correspondent brand is at the headquarters of the c.d.u. and joins me from there comes the c.d.u. is finalizing its sad to see what does it need to take into account as it enters the nest the next phase of negotiations. but i think the first issue that everybody has to clear up is whether these preliminary talks that resulted in the twenty eight eight page document can be regarded as finalized some of the participants on the conservative side i've been saying this is something like a first version of a final contract between the two parties for coalition talks and therefore nothing that has been said in the first version can be changed on the other hand the social democrats are pushing for much will deter much more substantial negotiations in the coming days and weeks and they want to push through further concessions further. issues that are important to them so this basic decision on what is still open for discussion how much of what is going to happen in the next few days will be flexible or will be fixed that is really the central issue

c.d.u. but looking at those results there there's no social democratic handwriting and if my kids wants to connect himself and his faith in the party was these results in south christian of coalition on not maybe in this case he's not the right one for for leading the party at the moment because we don't fear new elections and we also don't fear changing majorities and the palm and i think i'm in a minority coalition can also be an option would be very good for a democracy and we need people who are up for that and we need people who really fight for the social democratic values ok so we're talking here about the good of your party right just generally speaking i want to talk about the good of the country right now though because you know if we look at the international context what it leaders for example are to turn to the leader of france a manual. in the e.u. commission brussels many other players in the world they really want to stable german government what would you say to them that we want a social europe we want a social germany we want strong workers' rights for example we want a penny in politics in germany that is good for the people here because many peopl