maybe it is a great diet to go on food stamps. >> i have to agree with christian dorsey, congratulations by the way, christian. >> thank you. >> the problem we have it is right on poverty lines. you have had 32 million people and go to 46 million in the last two years. that is on poverty lines. john that you know is right about fraud. you need to fingerprint fingerprint -- wait a minute johnathon. let me finish. you don't need to spend something unless it is helping down the line. they have nothing else to eat. and the problem is, that many people are in poverty. >> john. the facts don't reflect that. look at mississippi, john. one in five people on food stamps it is the fattest state in the nation six years in the running. not taking anything away from mississippi, don't tell me we need food stamps when we have an obesity problem. >> i am not saying it aleviates poverty. we are throwing money at the system so people have something to eat so we don't have riots and extending long-term unemployment don't end up with like greece. >> cheryl, i understand we have to feed the people that need

christian dorsey . welcome to all of you. you think the government is to blame for rising bank fees? >> how could you not blame the government? first they need to stay out of the way. the foreclosure mortgage bailout garbage. who is paying for that other than us? and banks have to find a new source of income and believe or not it is fees on you and i. we have heard this for the better part of four years and the government is strangling with regulation and the cost is passed on to the consumer. they were supposed to fix it but like house like the plan to fix the job market it only made things worse. he might as well should have been. he was telling them to move their money out of the bank of america. it is happening all over. j.p. morgan said they can't make money serving customers with less than a 100 k. >> to be fair. it is not just bank of america and they tested it for almost new englands. we'll have to do it and pass it on to the customers. should we not be surprised. >> look, banks are not as profitible it is not just an

now from austin, texas, fox news contributor mary katharine ham and here with me in washington christian dorsey from the economic policy institute, a left-leaning think tank. >> great to see you. >> laura: good to see both of you. gas prices this was a shocker this "the washington post"-abc news poll came out today. the president stabilized approval ratings but this clearly is having an effect. you say what about what the president's reaction has been so far? starting with the energy secretary who initially said our goal is not to bring down the price, kind of amending that the next day. >> it was misreported. the point is the president can't really control the price of gas at the pump. as much as we like to think that the president can buy fiat and make price goes lower, he can't. global oil trades are responsible for gas prices and those are not influenced by the president. what the president can influence are reducing our dependency on foreign oil and making sure we have alternative sources to just using oil for heating our homes and driving our cars and all those areas the president is actu

now from austin, texas, fox news contributor mary katharine ham and here with me in washington christian dorsey from the economic policy institute, a left-leaning think tank. >> great to see you. >> laura: good to see both of you. gas prices this was a shocker this "the washington post"-abc news poll came out today. the president stabilized approval ratings but this clearly is having an effect. you say what about what the president's reaction has been so far? starting with the energy secretary who initially said our goal is not to bring down the price, kind of amending that the next day. >> it was misreported. the point is the president can't really control the price of gas at the pump. as much as we like to think that the president can buy fiat and make price goes lower, he can't. global oil trades are responsible for gas prices and those are not influenced by the president. what the president can influence are reducing our dependency on foreign oil and making sure we have alternative sources to just using oil for heating our homes and driving our cars and all those areas the president is actu