of the bible or the christian god our founding fathers explicitly in the first congress stated the united states of america is not in any sense founded on the christian religion it's true that many of the founders were believers but none of the founders were women none of them thought women should vote we are not obligated to day to go back to become carbon copies of the private religious views of some of our founders we are a crowley godless secular nation and much better off because our founders who wise enough to distance themselves from the divisiveness of the early colonies who used to persecute and exclude and banish those who did not have the right faith so so no american government was a godly nation it is not now and we are better off because of that can i respond to that i had ok first of all i don't agree with a lot of the points you made obviously but here's the point and the important point in a secular state that is based on a godless foundation as you had for example in the former soviet union which did

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. >> god bless you for that. >> i'm christian and -- >> god bless you for that. >> i'm christian and- >> so am i. and i absolutely hate doing and i absolutely hate doing this. >> i believe i touched him with >> i believe i touched him with what i said. he didn't take the money. he didn't take the money. he didn't do anything. he just left. >> i don't want to do this to >> i don't want to do this to you. i'm sorry. you want to know something? >> uh-huh. >> it's not real. it's a bb gun. >> reporter: but it would appear the man's change of heart did >> reporter: but it would appear the man's change of heart did not last long. police say two hours later he robbed a shoe store. now he's behind bars. no word if there was prayer at the second store. >>> president obama took his the second store. >>> president obama took his family on a kind of top secret mission last night. their destination, washington's international spy museum where children including his own learn what it's like to be international spies. >>> up next here, it's back to spying on the weddings.ug that f who had the bigges

my message that gave to christ, they should be called the sons of god. >> this man is a successful christian businessman who owns numerousotel changes throughout africa and networks sharing about the power of forgiveness. >> that is wherthe faith comes in to bring god's healing on a nation. >> latest statisticsshow close to 80 percent of those in this couny call themselves christians. those leading the reconciliation are hoping to use those statistics to help rebuild this nation. >> we are ultimately the answer. >> a sentiment echoed by zimbabwes prime ministerand the american and african centers for law and justice. >> the church playing a very moral role, a leading role. i think would be a misplacement of prioriti to play the church of a political organization. >> to imam feisal to rid the streets of trash. on a recent saturday morning, dozens of churches and local agencies joinedn the effort. he has been talking to churches about dog more for the clean up of zimbabwe. >> it is not just people going to church, but it is a way of life which must be a deflection of their daily practices. >>

. >> he would want me to say that he is an ordinary christian doing what god wanted him to do and that was to help bring eye care to afghanistans. >> motivated by the love of christ. >> reporter: in new york worshippers honored tom's life and his mission. >> tom was a quiet man who had a strong resolve as to what he was doing. >> reporter: secretary tear of state hillary clinton called the killings a despicable act of wane ton violence and nato and afghanistan con teamed the -- con deemed the violence. -- condemned the violence. tarell brown, cbs news, new york. >>> a sean that competition turned deadly in finland. two finalist collapsed after spending six minutes in the sean that heated to 230 degrees. one later died. the event organizer said all security requirements were in place with enough first aid personnel. the competitors said this year's sean thats were particularly hot and the spokesman says the contest will not be held again. >>> the cement sealing the oil well in the gulf of mexico appears to be solid. today bp said pressure tests on the cement plugs show the seal has hard

god. you have to believe that there's a creator. the jews, the christianhoever believes in god and does good, will be saved. >> do you believe that a suicide bomber goes to heaven? >> one of the things that we are taught is never to say somebody will go to hell or somebody will go to heaven. it is up to god to decide. >> reporter: in fact, the imam has been praised for being a moderate, enlisted by the fbi to help train agents about islam. and this week, is on a state-sponsored speaking tour through the mideast to try to bridge the gap between muslims in the west. jeffrey goldberg is a national correspondent for "the atlantic" and has covered the imam extensively. >> he has actually walked the walk. he goes to churches. he goes to synagogues. he talks about the commonalties. he condemns terrorism. fundamentalism. in all forms. including islamic fundamentalism. i've seen this. >> reporter: still, some don't buy it. they say the imam is a sympathi sympathizer, pointing to this interview with "60 minutes. ". >> i wouldn't say the united states deserved what h

god. you have to believe there's a creator, the jews, the christians, whoever believes in god and does good will be saved. >> reporter: he watched his father, a muslim scholar, pioneer interfaith dialogue in the '60s in new york, went on to do the same thing after the september 11th attacks. he was the imam or head priest of the new york mosque just 12 blocks from ground zero. >> do you believe that a suicide bomber goes to heaven? >> one of the things we are taught is never to say somebody will go to hell or somebody will go to heaven. it is up to god to decide. >> one man's suicide bomber is another man's martyr? >> the expression i've heard is one man's terrorist is another man's hero. >> reporter: but in his book the imam wrote the truth is that killing innocent people is always wrong and no argument or excuse, no matter how deeply believed, can ever make it right. he's been praised for being moderate. but it was this interview with cbs' "60 minutes" after the september 11th attacks that has drawn scrutiny. >> i wouldn't say the united states deserved what happened. but the united state

the bigotry, the class wars, the racism, some of us say that we are christians, god-fearing people. to some degree we are also very hypocritical. you say that you are for something or against something, but if something happens like this situation in new york with the mosque, you say that you should have the freedom to practice your religion, but i am going to come out and protest, why are you protesting? host: how does this play out in voting in primaries and things of that nature? caller: they jump on board because it is the soup of the day. they want to use something to get votes, but as soon as they get in office, the entire thing changes. it happens so much, just like when obama and clinton went against each other. the only reason that john mccain picked serif it -- sara palin, he was trying to get the hillary clinton vote. you see what i am saying? we have to get away from that soup of the day mentality. treat everyone the way you want to be treated, all right? host: that will finish our first segment today, we are turning to issues of the economy, especially home sales. plung

the idea that buddhists and christians are all toward the same god, that's a unique view. if you asked this several years ago, you would get a similar answer but it didn't go with the political narrative. chris: if we had hillary clinton now, would we have the same talk and the same attitude toward the mosque, and a it is a row of buildings? >> first we have a mixed race president with a middle name hussein. and what is going on is just not the plain and black and white stuff of the past. it is that asians are moving in and running the local hotel. i don't want to deal in the cliches. there's latinos who are moving into the areas. their grandchildren are coming out as gay or intermarrying. the purity of the ethnic -- the ethnic tour -- purity to coin a phrase for longer exists. that in addition to the real economic problems -- i think that's the change -- the whole change in the world they live is something. chris: it about the president, barack obama hussein obama. we elected him we must not be anti-islamic. >> he had a high approval rating, that dwindled. they were just

selling antique furniture to opening one of the christian stores in beijing. >> we have bible verses everywhere. i want people to know and learn about god. i wanthem to be attraed to jesus christ. >> the chens open up their shob back in 1994. since then busineshas been thriving. today they have a ministry found in the background. >> they say this is their real ministry, a small group of new christian convts learning how to thrive economically in the new china. for a few hours every week, men and men gather to worship, pray and how to manage their finances from a biblical perspective. >> god wants us to be ethical with our finances and we will not bless us and we cannot bless his nation. >> this man is just now tasting the truths of the blessing. >> i used to lie, cheat and steal. i made money and lots of it. >> couple of years a, he was living life as a million area. >> i drank, did drugs, gambled and cheated on my wife. i didn't pay taxes. >> he still felt empty. >> i felt hallo i became a buddhist. i even hired aftersritual leader to say prayers over me. i was getting desperate. my marriage was falling a part. i wanted to kill myself.

if christians give up on this couny, then there is no hope for afghanistan. with god all things are possible. the people who have served there in the past and continue to serve there truly believe there is hope and a better future for this country. >> heather, what can we learn from dr. tom little and others that gave their lives to the service of the afghaneople. state departmentis calling them heroes, others are calling them martyrs. give us your sense? >> tom little and others serving in that country for a long time are an example of what an authentic christian life looks like. these are people who loved not their own lives, even to pay the ultimate sacrifice of giving their lives physically. i have spent a lot of time this last week thinking about them and praying for their famili and you know, i don't know any of them would have been surprid this would have been the outcome some day. they had alreadgiven their lives to the afghan peopl they didn't give their lives on the day they physicly lost their lives. they had been giving their lives every single day for the

christian values inside the military because they a lot many people still think that a christian crusader army is what god desires so to speak and that's not right that's not what the military is the military is the defense the u.s. borders forgives foreign and domestic enemies and definitely a touchy situation there because you know people abroad also are able to see what the policies are of the u.s. military they can look in and look at don't ask don't tell and and all of the following now take very quickly to start asking the last question because you yourself were in afghanistan does religion come into play when you're in a theater of war is that help you. i think so i met if i think the chaplain corps whether there are muslim or jewish or christian can provide an immense amount of pastoral care for people that have post-traumatic stress that have family issues in that i mean divorce rate in the enlisted ranks at seventy percent or more the clergy have a profound role in those sorts of situations but the big problem is is thinking that the clergy are there to proselytize the indigenous people of afgha

god and country. >> hello, america. >> reporter: on the steps of the lincoln memorial, glenn beck's rally at times had the look and feel of a christian revival. >> america today begins to turn back to god. >> let the church say amen! >> reporter: albeit with a heavy dose of beck-style patriotism. >> this day is a day that we can start the heart of america again. it has nothing to do with politics. it has everything to do with god. >> reporter: thousands came to hear the message. true to his word, beck steered clear of politics, even convincing sarah palin to do the same. >> i've been asked to speak as the mother of a soldier. >> reporter: instead, they honored the nation's servicemen and women, founding fathers and the man who made history on this very spot 47 years ago today. >> i have a dream today. >> i can relate to martin luther king probably the most because we haven't carved him in marble yet. he's still a man. >> reporter: beck stirred controversy by picking this day and place. he's on the record calling president obama a racist and labeling democrats marxists, socialists, communists and pinheads. holding their own, much smal

bless this woman with breast cancer this guy serious are good christians opposed to love everyone and everything that god made including boobs we no matter what your opinion on this issue that right there is a perfect example of religion being used in the wrong way to wish a life threatening disease on someone else would have been the love thy neighbor anyway that to the issue at hand all i'm saying is that i believe in the freedom of choice not saying that women should always walk around topless in busy city streets or in offices but if you're out on the beach on the beach if you're trying to get some sun to try to get a tan and you want to not wear a top i say go ahead and those who think that this would just be too who crazy to become acceptable i suggest you take a little trip to europe and hey i want to top a speech you'll see that nobody there cares quite the opposite when women go topless everyone wins. a pro-life organization out of colorado held a press conference to unveil their first radio ad personhood colorado believes that this spot is going to help push their ballot initiative take a liste

christians know it. what is your reaction since this nation, doesn't mention god in its constitution? all of this have to do with anything? >> we do mention it in the declaration and minutes of the discussion. the declaration of independence. >> larry: are we a christian nation, dana? >> i think we were founded upon principles understanding that our rights come from a higher power. because what man gives man can take away the what god gives away, man cannot take away. >> larry: are we a christian nation? >> i think we were founded upon principles that are rooted in christianity. do we have a mandated faith, we do not have a mandated faith. >> larry: all right, what is all this fuss about? >> well, i think when you mention the poll earlier, i think that, that sort of presupposes that even questioning whether or not he may be christian or muslim is a bad thing. i don't think speculating about what someone's faith is, is bad unless they're trying to, unless the purpose is to condemn that person for being either a christian or muslim. i don't think that was the point. i think it was just

especially the campaign of a man whose voter base is a bunch of good, god-fearing christian conservativesyou realize you just attempted to blackmail an officer of the court and a publicly elected texas state official? and it worked. >> apparently frasier's a freak. >> all right, so i thought it was good, i give it 3 kernels. really good, enjoyed it. not a family flick but entertaining. don't take your r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r

god. >> reporter: father leo does get criticism from some catholics who think it's inappropriate for a priest to be doing what he does. but he asserts that his food ministry is deeply christian. >> we believe at least in the catholic church what binds us together and what binds god to us is food. a piece of bread turned into the body and blood of christ, in which we are incorporated into his family. so i got to tell you, i know that the collar freaks people out a little bit. >> reporter: father leo says for him, one of the most important parts of his cooking ministry is reaching out to people who may be uncomfortable with priests and helping them learn a little aa"t god. >> he could take a breakdancing, board breaking, bread breaking priest and give hope to people who might not understand the church or might not understand a priest. >>er and that he says is a grace that extends beyond every meal. >>> parents are often looking for entertaining and educational outings for the kids. well, an interactive museum in brooklyn, new york, helps children learn about the jewish faith, from holidays to traditional rituals and bible stories. education director rabbi nissen brenenson gave

god. you have to believe there is a creator. the jews, the christians it right." he's been praised for being moderate. but it was this interview with cbs' "60 minutes" after the september 11th attacks that has drawn scrutiny. >> i wouldn't say that united states deserved what happened. but united states policies were an accessory to the crime that happened. >> reporter: and while all the imam's speeches and writings are now being looked over word by word, one is often overlooked. the imam eulogized daniel pearl at his funeral, asking forgiveness for what's been done in the name of islam. sharyn alfonsi, abc news, new york. >>> former president jimmy carter travels to north korea today on a humanitarian mission. mr. carter is expected to negotiate the freedom of an american who was arrested in north korea back in january. that man was sentenced to eight years for illegally entering the country. he is expected to leave north korea with the former president on thursday. >>> pakistan's president says it will take three years or more to recover from the deva

earliest generation, the earliest decades of christian preaching had to do with the resurrection, the fact that this man who is crucified is our messiah and god raised him from the dead. that was the systems of the early preaching. it was in the succeeding decades as more questions began to arise as the notion of jesus' did i have vicinity began to really take hold that questions were to arise that well, if he was divine how did that happen? and then questions of his birth became very important questions. it's very clear that, for example, luke went back and had to do research. he had to investigate. he tells us that at the start of his gospel. in order to find out what he calls the exact truth. and the fact that he concluded that jesus was born of a virgin may well be because that was a part of the tradition that he discovered as he went back and did his research. >> do you have thoughts on what you're hearing? >> of course i do. this is my business. >> what are your thoughts? >> two things. one thing, again, augustine points out -- ancient christians for whom greek and latin were their vernaculars knew perfectly well the greek text was diff

christian revival. > america today begins to turn back to god. the church say amen. >> reporter: albeit with a heavy dose of beck-style patriotism. >> this day is a day that we can start the heart of america doain, and it has nothing to do with politics. it has everything to do with god. o reporter: thousands came to ear the message, and true to his word, beck steered clear of politics, even convincing sarah palin to do the same. > i've been asked to speak as dier.other of a soldier. >> instead they honored the ation's service men and women, he founding fathers, and the an who made history on this very spot 47 years ago -- >> i have a dream today. [ cheering ] >> i can relate to martin luther ing probably the most because we haven't carved him in marble yet. man.still a man. >> reporter: but beck stirred ontroversy by taking this ay -- picking this day and place. e's on the record calling resident obama a racist and abeling democrats marxist, socialist, communist, and pinheads. olding their own much smaller arch and rally, civil rights activists

members of its medical aid team, the christian relief agency, international assistance mission, said today it would not close down operations here. >> we will, god willing, continue to stay and serve the people of afghanistan. >> reporter: team leader tom little from new york had been providing eye care here for more than 30 years. he trained abdul raheem majad and hundreds of other afghans to be optometrists. >> he was trying to train people of afghanistan to be a good source of help for other afghans. >> reporter: thomas grams quit his dental practice three years ago to offer free dental care to afghan children. dan terry from wisconsin had lived in kabul for 30 years while working with poor people from different ethnic groups. cheryl beckett from knoxville, tennessee, spent six years here teaching, impressing her father with her desire to help others. >> her passion and faith, she really did walk with the lord. >> reporter: glen lapp came from lancaster, pennsylvania, as a nurse two years ago and decided to stay as manager of a provincial eye care program. lisa shirk, a professor from the eastern mennonite university which lapp attended saw h

god's mercy be on them. >> reporter: the taliban claims credit, accusing the foreigners of spying and trying to convert muslims to christianity. secretary of state hillary clinton disputed that claim calling the group's mission, quote, solely humanitarian and wholly independent from that of any government. libby little also echoed that statement saying her husband and his group were in the remote province for one reason only. >> there was no efforts to convert. they were working like crazy caring for people. >> reporter: a cause that would ultimately lead to their tragic deaths. frances coe, nbc news. >>> meanwhile nato says one u.s. soldier was killed sunday in roadside bombings in southern afghanistan yesterday bringing the number of americans who have died in afghanistan this month to six. along the gulf coast this week, an annual fisherman's tradition was particularly meaningful this year with the ongoing oil disaster there. residents took part in the blessing of the boats which marks the kickoff to the fall shrimp season. it begins in a week as the seafood, the livelihood of these fishermen, continues to undergo safety t

god! >> reporter: a mix of tea partyers and christian conservatives came by the bus loads to washington they won't be ignored this fall. >> we came to support conservatism, low taxes, small government. >> reporter: the speakers were religious figures, war veterans, and one prom net politician. >> we must not fundamentally transform america as swh would want. we must restore america and restore her honor. ( cheers and applause ) >> reporter: organizer and fox news host glen beck had asserted that this event would, quote, reclaim the civil rights movement. the rev. al sharpton, rangeled by those comments, led his own march on the mall to commemorate the 47th anniversary of martin luther king jr.'s i have a dream speech. >> this is our day, and we ain't giving it away. >> reporter: according to a tally commissioned by cbs news, roughly 87,000 people attended the beck event. that's the largest gathering on the national mall since president obama was inaugurated. for sunday morning, nancy cordes in washington. >> smith: seven americans have died in weekend attacks in southern and eastern afghanis

the only difference in christianity is that they see christ as the son of god and muslims see him as a prophet. i grew up in a big city. you need to look at people as individuals. host: do americans understand islam? guest: the muslim population is a very small. they are very widely dispersed. that is one of the reasons you have so many mosques. they are distributed across the country. many of the 1900 mosques are a single room in someone's house or in the back of a store. because the population is so small, they do not get noticed as much. that leads to the fact that 2/3 of the people polled don't know any muslims. that means that all the knowledge they have about islam, regrettably in recent years, has come from up watching the news on television. in that context, is lamslam coms across negatively. community elders need to do much more to spread the word about islam and explain it. ironically, the project in lower manhattan was designed to do that and is having the exact opposite effect. host: let's go to minnesota, where jennifer is calling. caller: good morning. mr. ghosh, i can

the principles upon which our country was founded and those principles are judeo-christian values of hard work, faith in gody of family, the primacy of marriage and caring of the least and lost among us and a charitable impulse. when i was on glen beck's show in july, i quoted a book redding graduate school but i never thought i would "on a cable news show. does a book by an historian. it is about the quakers and -- in colonial philadelphia. in it, the author stresses the fact that the entrepreneurial impulse of the quakers was indistinguishable from the charitable impulse. they viewed the success of their businesses as inextricably linked to their ability to found the purse lending libraries, the first hospitals, the first priest tool -- preschools, the first health clinic. all of that was a part of a whole. i think that is still true. to the extent that we look to washington, to the extent that we look to government, to the extent that we try to have the government meet those needs instead of mothers and fathers and families and pastors and rabbis and priests and faith communities and charitable enterpris

orthodox christian religion well actually they're very religious people with the they say that this life is nothing this life is actually getting ready to the real life which starts after you meet god. you must be happy that you have finally dying and . just you should be ready to meet god but most of the religion they say is that they teach that there is life after death yeah so how did you with that and in your in your psychotherapy when they reverse that for a moment and say that i think the fear of death is the mother of every single religion i mean that's one of the reasons why religion sprang up in the first place to help us deal. with this so it's not explaining the unexplainable but the fear of death because i thought that the in the midst people believe that religion is. a originated in order to explain why the sudden rise is why oh why it's cold in winter why it's dark at night and things like that and it arrives to explain the deepest essential facts in our life which is the fact that we're going to grow old and we're going to be very frightened. into people since beginning of life if you look at the gyptian culture for example it's totally based around trying to deal wi

the only difference in christianity is that they see christ as the son of god and muslims see him asrophet. i grew up in a big city. you need to look at people as individuals. host: do americans understand islam? guest: the muslim population is a very small. they are very widely dispersed. that is one of the reasons you have so many mosques. they are distributed across the country. many of the 1900 mosques are a single room in someone's house or in the back of a store. because the population is so small, they do not get noticed as much. that leads to the fact that 2/3 of the people polled don't know any muslims. that means that all the knowledge they have about islam, regrettably in recent years, has come from up watching the news on television. in that context, is lamslam coms across negatively. community elders need to do much more to spread the word about islam and explain it. ironically, the project in lower manhattan was designed to do that and is having the exact opposite effect. host: let's go to minnesota, where jennifer is calling. caller: good morning. mr. ghosh, i can unde

god. and each time you change your name it costs about $500 each time. he's trying to create awareness for christian. i don't know. i think there's other ways of working on christian unity personally. anyway, what do you think miss sarah? >> i would agree with hoda that fedex guys are hot. >> i'm not saying they're not, but they come in all sizes and shapes, you know what i'm saying. >> lots of packages. >> like the packages themselves. exactly. >> we were talking about the jetblue flight attendant. gary wrote in i wish i had an emergency exit and inflatable slide at times and greta wrote you can only take so much crap before you snap. >> interesting. in that case he should have celebrated national smores day and had a smore. then had some of this 900-year-old beer. >> 9,000-year-old. >> it is booze day. >> actor oliver platt is with us. he'll caulk to him after this. we'll save a little of this 9,000-year-old beer for him. >> where's my earring? 9,000-year-old beer for him. >> where's my earring? [ cat meows ] ♪ [ male announcer ] cats everywhere are using fresh step with carbon because it doesn't

christian adams. >> we bring you greetings from detroit, michigan, and we thank god for those who made the drive fromfrom every state. we are going to march against injustice. people ask us, why are you still marching? in 2010? well, my mind went back to september of 1963, after the march on washington. we had a terrible tragedy. the dream turned into a nightmare. . were blown up , murdered in birmingham, alabama at the 16th street baptist church. and when martin luther king, junior, preached the you'llology, he said that those four little girls, though they were dead, they were living and speaking. speaking to the politicians that serve their constituencies , the stale bread and spoiled meat of racism. speaking to the clergy that were hiding behind their stained glass windows and cloistrd hallways. speaking to all who stood passively on the sidelines instead of engaging in the struggle for justice and they are speaking to us today. they are telling us to march on. and that's what we'll do. march on as one family. march on as one nation. march on as one people until freedom is won. remember, don't be

god individually, and that is going to help us as a nation. you said recently that the reason that a growing number of americans don't think president obama is a christian is because they don't recognize the faith that he's practicing. in fact, you even called it a perversion of the gospel of jesus christ. you know i respect you and i say this affectionately, but who made you the god squad? >> nobody made me the god squad. the pope even said -- this is pope benedict -- it's demonic, not divine, when theology crosses into the line of doing that which only the divine can do. he was speaking specifically about liberation theology. if you want to ask anybody in the catholic church, they witnessed it. it's marxism disguised as religion. it happened in south america. the catholic church has a very long history with it. they understand it. unlike most religions. and i'm not judging him for that. i'd love to have an open conversation about collective salvation. chris, you know, i don't know, i don't know what you know or what you believe, but most christians when you say, "i'm a christian --" look, i'm a mormon. most people don't recognize me as a christian. wh

christian adams. [applause] >> we bring you greetings from detroit, michigan. we thank godave boarded buses and made the drive from detroit, michigan, and from every state. we're going to march against injustice. people ask us why we are still marching in 2010. well, before i answer, my mind goes back to september of 1963, after the march on washington we had a terrible tragedy. the dream turned into a nightmare. a little girl was blown up, murdered in birmingham, alabama, at the 16th street baptist church. when martin luther king, jr. preached the eulogy, he said that even though the little girls were dead, they were living and speaking to the politicians that served their constituencies the stale bread and spoiled meat of racism, speaking to the clergy that were hiding behind the stained glass windows, speaking to all that stood passively on the sidelines instead of engaging in the struggle for justice. they are speaking to us today. they are telling us to march on. that is what we will do. we will march on as one family. march on as one nation. march on as one people unt

i get in god's way a lot of times. i'm a bad christian, i call myself.developing options, a gang intervention group run by a guy named big u who really helped me and we work in prisons and with kids. and a friend of mine named aaron jones, he's on death row. he's been on death row for 21 years. but the sentence was unjust. for the first time in american history, someone who was accused of being a organized crime leader has gotten the death penalty. he was a drug, right, john gotti didn't get the death penalty. even going back to al capone. >> you believe he should be in jail for the rest of his life, if he's guilty of this murder. >> yes, i believe he should be punished. but he made a mistake as a very young man. it's still wrong. but now the death penalty -- developing options in the inner city development. these were people from quote-unquote the 'hoods. who have given us money to do a documentary on this. >> thank you very much for coming on. >> thank you, "pirhana 3-d." >>> we'll be back right after this. [ dog panting ] [ dog sniffs ] [ cat meows ]