the bavarian sister party, the christian social union, their leader said in the summer after the crackdownt followed the coup attempt in turkey, that the eu should absolutely terminate talks with turkey, that turkey is not a democratic state with rule of law. and he is also against the waving visas for turkish citizens, which is part of the progression that the eu has said it would negotiate. but those calls are not being repeated right now and we're not hearing calls from anybody here, saying, we need to jettison this refugee agreement with turkey. 56% of germans doubt that the talks make sense though. host: i know this is speculative, but if president erdogan would come good on the threats and reopen the flow of margaret's death migrants to europe, how large -- flow of migrants to your come out how large does that little? -- lo om? >> there was another one, the closing down of the balkan route through southeastern europe, that was the route so many migrants took in order to get to countries like germany and that route is now closed. so even if erdogan was to make a good on his threat, we