christie, angela, or pat. if not, i'm going to keep moving. [inaudible] >> she already spoke in all right. thank you, then. [inaudible] >> all right. charlie -- looks like -- charlie, john, and steven. are you here? charlie, john, and steven. >> dale seymour wants to talk about keeping it real. well, the thing is the navigation center is violating several policies and its contract with the city and county of san francisco and its contract with the homeless, but jeff kosinsky and his staff, they just sweep it all under the rug. so then, myself, i have to file a lawsuit against the navigation center because they -- they actually sent me this document that says they are above policies and protocols of the navigation centers. that includes their contract, san francisco administrative code 2400. basically, when you go into a navigation center, they do what they want to you, and you have no type of resource except to be a homeless person litigating against the city and county of san francisco. when i was in the navigation center, i was called racial slurs by the staff, they just swept it under the rug -- and i had it documented in writing. they violate the shelter standards policy, they