christina flores i think we deferred. michelle genne and inspector tom kean. we will review and make declarations at that time. expert witnesses. who will address the experts for the mayor? >> this is a lot of experts for this issue. i know you submitted this prayer to some of the briefing. does anybody become unnecessary in light of sloot recent briefing and your investigation or do you intend to call these experts? >> we would still intend to call these experts and i can do a brief explanation of why. chairperson hur: yes, please. >> there have been many others who have been disciplined but not terminated on the basis of criminal conduct. mr. chinako is a consulting experts. he could speak to that issue. he could speak to how is this -- it is the sheriff should be treated under his own disciplinary section. chiel landstone is being offered as a law enforcement officer who teaches an ethics course at the professional association for law enforcement. and law enforcement and ethics for chiefs. this is germane and he has the expertise to give it. chairperson hur

christina flores. >> this was the prior the victim of domestic violence. [crowd murmuring] chairperson hur: i apologize, please proceed. >> that is ok, i am used to it. we would simply attach the transcripts of that. the testimony of prior intimate partners, persons accused of domestic violence, it is relevant to determining whether domestic violence occurred and to determine the kind of power relationships that occur in domestic violence relationships. that would lead to things like this is -- like witnesses recanting their stories. we do not think she should be called live. >> this witness personifies the mayor's attempt to turn this into a circus. prior testimony under evans -- evidence code is relevant only were the instant incident is in dispute, and it is not. sheriff mirkarimi said he grabbed his wife during an argument and he bore repeat that statement under oath. -- grabbed his wife's arm during an argument and he will repeat that statement under oath. this witness was not fully cross-examined during the criminal trial. if you somehow decided that