. >> christina marcos of "the hill," walk us through what will happen over the next few days. now, congress does not have a clear plan for how it will avert a shutdown.

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isjoining us on the phone christina marcos of "the hill," walk us through what will happen over the next few days. >> as of right now, congress does not have a clear plan for how it will avert a shutdown. they won't support the spending bill unless there is progr

host: we are talking with christina marcos of "the hill." why is this so difficult for congress? christina: immigration has always been a difficult issue. a lot of passionate feelings on both sides. republicans are split. you have interested lawmakers -- you have centrist lawmakers who believe these am immigrants who were brought to the u.s. as children through no fault of their own -- they don't even realize they are undocumented until they are applying to college or something happens. they don't think it is fair to deport these people, who had no involvement in deciding to come here illegally. and then you have people who rep. pelosi: -- and then you have people who want to cut down on illegal immigration and argue this is the fault of the system. people with certain skills should come into the country. host: if senators don't -- agreed to that short-term cash, -- short-term patch, do the speaker and leader mcconnell have the votes they need in h -- in each chamber to get this through? christina: speaker ryan did manage to acquire a number of votes to pass the bill in december.

. >> christina marcos of "the hill," walk us through what will happen over the next few days. now, congress does not have a clear plan for how it will avert a shutdown. they won't support the spending bill unless there is progress. they want protections for these young, undocumented immigrants. the trump administration is ending them under daca. hand, there are lks that are loath to create another short-term patch from the pentagon. and then you always have fiscal concerns with the spending bills. chip deadline is in march. and the dreamers debate has been inflamed over the past couple of days. how does all of that play into this debate? democrats are saying they will not vote for another spending bill unless there is something in place for the dreamers. issue and complexity the controversy of president trump's remarks. if there is some measurable progress for how democrats will come on board -- but right now they see no advantage to simply helping republicans keep the government open. the fourth cr for this congress? ristina: it is, since the september. there were two in dece