king and that's weeks my artie's own host of the big picture tom hartman now earlier i spoke to christina tobin the founder of the free and equal elections foundation about this she's with the group sponsoring the debate and actually approached earth and i got a call from t.v. there larry king and we started talking and i so hate of larry king one of moderators the stork debate you so sure so it was that easy and they've been a great team to work with i've been so happy and i'm really looking forward to co moderating the debate with them tomorrow evening starts at eight pm central time eight to nine thirty pm. a lot of americans though as we know christine they're unfamiliar with some of these candidates from other parties even by calling these debates you know quote unquote third party it sort of hints at the other four candidates all sort of being lumped into the same group are there major differences between the four candidates participating in tomorrow night's debate. well there are some differences but i think there are a lot more similarities these candidates are coming together to unite

any mind or for that matter and the air time to talk more about this i was joined earlier by christina tobin founder and chair of free and equal elections foundation and i first asked her if the president and governor romney were invited to participate in this third party debate. well thank you for having me work with the free and equal actions foundation and of course we did invite both romney and obama to participate in this debate but as we know the commission on presidential debates is committing a fraud on the american voters according to the league of voters and i don't expect them to attend but we welcome them to but we do do do have four candidates confirmed for this debate talk a little bit about some of the issues you expect to come up i mean will this be similar topics that we've seen in the debate that we've seen so far would say maybe not probably actually what the people want throughout the united states from foreign policy we're also going to talk about the threat of stopped up to spreading across the nation the biggest threat to our electoral process ever people don't know ab

america helping them views the organizers behind the debates christina tobin told us voters deserve greaterchoice. the two party system has been playing us for over a century since the creation of the us trillion ballots back and eight hundred ninety we're going to be launching shortly after the election a nationwide database listing every single candidate running for office whether you're within a party or not it doesn't matter independents and we're going to shine a light on special interest money in politics corporate money and politics and we're going to shift the power back to the people back to the origins of the constitution which doesn't even mention parties nor corporations i think that we need to implement instant runoff voting would be a great start opening the debates sort of electoral because we need to get people out there to speak about it a personal representation blackbox voting doesn't work at all and then with training collections in two thousand and thirteen we're going to host this panel conferences conferences of experts uniting experts experts that is not only within

of the mainstream media to face and how do we change this joining me now for more on this is christina tobin founder and chair of the free and equal elections foundation an activist a leader in the elections reform and voter rights movement christine thanks for joining us thank you so much for having me it's a pleasure to have you with us i remember ross perot in one thousand nine hundred two warned of a giant sucking sound. you know this was the director now and after he was so right actually you know when we look back on it look at our trade policies we haven't had that kind of a crack open in the in the presidential debates you know breaking the mold as it were why not i mean the two party system really evolved from the creation of the australian ballot back in the eight hundred ninety s. and from there on we had the federal election commission at evolving one nine hundred seventy four and those two things are really the lifeline of the two party system we haven't really had a big breakthrough because this is a they adjusted to ross perot and since then we've had ralph nader independent h

i am christina tobin. and i welcome and thank all of you for being here tonight. tonight we are all taking part in something good and real and honest and open, without debate contracts and private interest controlling. [applause] without them controlling the questions we ask and the answers the candidates deliver, free, open and fair. free and equal work to improve the united states are bringing it back to the people. we did this by opening the debate and proving ballot access laws to unite people and organizations across the political spectrum who also went free, open and fair elections. tonight's debate is the first of its kind. and our sponsors represent a diverse group. and people were presenting all types of ideologies. i imagine our audience is just as diverse. tonight you will meet four candidates. to lean more to the left, to lean more to the right. these candidates secured enough about lines to be here today. in the future, we have to have more resources so it can open this further with more debates, more candidates at every level of government. [applause

[applause] outlook turned over to christina tobin for the close. >> i want to thank larry king for being a dream come true. [applause] my executive producer and producer and the whole crew people, thank you to them and all of our supporters out there and the candidates and a week, the people. i have good news for you -- how many people enjoyed this debate tonight? [applause] [applause] [applause] >> wow. [applause] how many people want to see a second debate? [applause] we are a non-partisan organization that all donations go to creative things like this and we are doing big things after the election. we are holding a debate next tuesday in washington, d.c., 9:00 p.m. eastern time. [applause] and thanks to one of our sponsors, rob ritchie. we will implement instant run off voting and you can go on line to vote for the candidate you want. you have 24 hours to votes to go on line and go home today to vote and on thursday morning, we will announce the two candidates with the most votes will be in washington, d.c. to debate on international issues. please, but tonight, free and equal.org. [a

i'll turn it over to christina tobin for the close. >> i want to thank larry king, dream come true.arry, please. [cheers and applause] of course my executive producer and producer. the whole crew of people. thank you to them. all of our supporters out there. the candidates and we the people. and i have some good news for you. how many people enjoyed this debate tonight? [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> wow. how many people want to see a second debate? [cheers and applause] well, here at free and equal we're a nonpartisan organization. all donations go through great things like this and the big things we're doing after the election but we are holding a debate next tuesday in washington, d.c., 9:00 p.m. eastern time. [cheers and applause] and thanks to one of our sponsors, rob richie, with theirvote.org, we're going to implement instant runoff voting and you can go to our website tonight to vote for the candidate that you want, the two candidates with the highest votes at freeandequal.org, the instant runoff voting, you have 24 hours to vote. go online, when you go home

question is from the free and equal elections foundation, hosting this debate, and will be asked by christina tobin. >> thank you. we will start from the left to the right. here is our question. a top two primary is an election in which party labels appear on the ballot, but parties do not nominate candidates. instead, the candidates choose their own ballot label. all candidates run in the primary, but only the top two vote getters appear on the ballot in the november election. the system is p currently used in louisiana, washington state, and california. it is now a ballot member prop 21. what is your position on the top two primary system and why? >> we'll start with jill stein. >> thank you. and thank you so much to free & equal, and thank you for being here. i think top two does not enlarge our democracy. in many ways, it confuses things more. it puts many candidates onto the ballot all together, and it arbitrarily attaches party labels to them. any candidate can choose any label they want. so it really degrades the meaning of our political parties, where they have meaning, and i know they don'

[applause] outlook turned over to christina tobin for the close. >> i want to thank larry king for being a dream come true. [applause] my executive producer and producer and the whole crew people, thank you to them and all of our supporters out there and the candidates and a week, the people. i have good news for you -- how many people enjoyed this debate tonight? [applause] [applause] [applause] >> wow. [applause] how many people want to see a second debate? [applause] we are a non-partisan organization that all donations go to creative things like this and we are doing big things after the election. we are holding a debate next tuesday in washington, d.c., 9:00 p.m. eastern time. [applause] and thanks to one of our sponsors, rob ritchie. we will implement instant run off voting and you can go on line to vote for the candidate you want. you have 24 hours to votes to go on line and go home today to vote and on thursday morning, we will announce the two candidates with the most votes will be in washington, d.c. to debate on international issues. please, but tonight, free and equal.org. [a

christina in what she does. [applause] >> thank you. >> christianne things up but how did free and equal start? >> it came from my dad. jim tobin ran for governor here back in 1998. happy birthday, dad. this is my legacy. we now have free and equal elections which is a non- partisan organization to motivate people across the spectrum and break the stranglehold of the two-party system and bring the power back to the people. >> cristina has and closing remarks so i want to thank gary johnson, bill stein, rocky anderson, and virgil goode. it was my pleasure to be here and thank you to the audience as well. [applause] alternative over to cristina tobin. >> i want to thank larry king, a dream come true. [applause] my executive producer and producer, the whole crew of people, thank you to them and all of our supporters out there and the candidates and we the people and i have good news for you. how many people enjoyed this debate tonight? [applause] [applause] [applause] wow. how many people want to see a second debate? [applause] we're a nonpartisan organization and all donations go to create things like this and we are doing big th