chairman of reform uk , zia chairman of reform uk, zia yusuf, and the lib dem shadow cabinet member christine jardineand yes, it is as well, my wonderful audience. are you ready? i'm raring to go. yes. fantastic. all right. well, shortly we're going to be going to christopher hope. but right now stay tuned because we're going to go off. all right. well, we heard a heck of a lot from both candidates there. and shortly i'm going to be cherry picking some of the best bits. we were hearing a lot about the echr. we're hearing a heck of a lot about immigration in general, weren't we? and to just ground ourselves, i'll remind everyone who's just tuned in where this audience currently is. so at the start, i asked you, you were all quite undecided. now, if you are in favour of jenrick, can i get a holler ? jenrick, can i get a holler? >> yes. >> yes. >> yeah. okay. what about if you're in favour of kemi badenoch haaland. oh okay. all right. there we go. ranil, what do you make of that? you are of course , the conservative on the course, the conservative on the panel course, the conservative on the panel. so h