christine owens, executive director of the national employment law project. today. >> no, sadly it's not. there are over a to 4 million long-term unemployed workers. >> that's more than six months. >> that's more than six months, actively looking for jobs for more than six months. many of at least are older workers. workers who are at least 50. for them it takes longer to find a job, and the jobs they find typically don't pay what they had earnt previously. scott's example is typical for many of them, they piece together whatever they can peace together to hold together whatever they can hold together, and there seems to be little hope, a lot of the time. >> is it worse for men, women, holder, younger. who has the oldest time. >> it's bad for everybody. i don't want to pick who it's worse for, but it is worse for older workers generally, and that's for a lot of reasons. age discrimination is a real factor in the labour market. there's no question about that. it is - i don't know if it's worse for older men than it is for older women, but because women tend to