christine quin and rick santorum.o, what do you think, rick, is this a winning proposition for the president to say here they come, this is the example of the problem coming this way, we've got to stop them? will that bring your people to the to the polls? >> there is a concern about illegal immigration. you've made it sound like the president is against all immigration. the is not against -- >> he does want to reduce legal immigration, many forms of it. >> he wants to ends the visa lottery -- >> family reunification. >> which has bipartisan support. the idea that the president has some radical view of immigration policy is absolutely not true. he has, he has a view that used to be the democrat view. >> really? >> absolutely. if you go back to the clinton administration, barbara jordan at a commission that she chaired where she said very clearly that, you know, the american public has a right to control its border and limit illegal immigration -- >> i don't think anybody is saying that's what the proposition is. chris