we talked to christine todd whitman who was the epa administrator under george w. bush and she said i have been appalled. she can't understand why the republican party has turned its back on its own legacy of environmental stewardship through the decades. we talked to william reilly, george w. bush's administrator and he feels the same way. doesn't understand this. there are a lot of republicans who are uncomfortable with it and we need to communicate this to our elective leaders and let them know we are not going to be run roughshod over people carrying the smokestack agenda on capitol hill and let this party know it is going to have to return to its roots, its environmental history and its conservative roots. conservative tenets of thrift and energy independence. we quote t.s. eliot in the book. he is generally thought of as the most learned man of letters to be a conservative voice in the 20th century and he has a wonderful -- i am not going to kid you. he wrote it 80 years ago. the images in it are stock. t. s. eliot in one of the most famous lines in the waste

but to go back to your original question, look, republicans from christine todd-whitman to george h.w. bush to newt gingrich to others said we have a major problem here. we can acknowledge we have a problem. the question is how do we solve it. a more progressive angle is maybe throw more money at the problem, perhaps x, y or z. the conservative angle is maybe we should do a, b and c. the question becomes who is that leader, a la al gore or someone like that, that can force a national conversation for republicans and for democrats to literally sit down on the couch and to be able to have a thoughtful conversation about how we move the country forward in a thoughtful way. >> is that person david de rothschild? david, are you ready to lead the revolution? >> no pressure as i hold up the world here. listen, i think exactly the sentiments that are being said here, how do we act upon it. i think we have to basically just say look, cnserve our resources, invest in green jobs. that's the real thing. there's a whole innovation race that could unfold that would create real jobs that would boost