losing some rights that are really serious, and we've got to fight back. >> what does governor christine todd whitman say now? >> "firing line with margaret hoover" is made possible in part by... and by... corporate funding is provided by... >> governor christine todd whitman, welcome to "firing line." >> oh, it's good to be with you, margaret. >> y are a former two-term republican governor of the state of new jersey, you are a pro-choice republican, and you have long advocated for moderate positions within the republican party, from social issues scientific positions, including a time where you served in the cabinet for george w. bush as the epa administrator. >> mm-hmm. >> the supreme court has just ruled in a case that overturned roe v. wade, ending nearly 50 years of federal abortion rights in this country. did you, governor, ever think you would see this day? >> well, i'm afraid i saw it coming. i was afraid it was going to happen, and, obviously, when we had the leaked version, it was pretty -- it was pretty certain. but you could see the court starting to move in this direction. if you looked

party, a third political party, has been launched, by andrew yang and new jersey governor christine todd whitmannd x gop lawmaker david jolley. the question is, could it work? joining us live is the senior advisor for forward lucy caldwell,. thank you for making time for this interview. >> thanks for having me. great to be with you. >> we have to ask first and foremost, why was this political party formed? what were the main reasons for forming the specific party? >> well, i think one of the reasons is that nearly 70% of americans feel like they do not fit in either party we talk about those people about the exhausted majority and a lot of us are in it and probably a lot of viewers are in it. nearly 70% of americans feel like neither of the two major parties resonates with them. so shouldn't we have more choices? we think we should. we are not just trying to form another party. we are trying to form a new party. we are going to do things differently and we hope people will join us. >> you mentioned it. you're going to do things differently. why would a democrat or a republican want to support it

also new to my car former republican new jersey governor christine todd whitman former federal prosecutorse asked a federal judge in florida to allow them to file their own motion in opposition to trump's request to appoint a special master. their brief calls to request a waste of time. this is "the washington times" is reporting some rank-and-file fbi agents are calling for fbi director christopher wray to resign. this following a senior bureau official himself resigning while he was under scrutiny for suspected political bias when it came to the hunter biden laptop investigation. one of trump's attorneys reacting to that news tonight. take a listen. >> i'm really proud of the fbi whistle-blowers. the president is incredibly proud of those people that took the oath very seriously. the fact that they are saying something is wrong with what's happening in the fbi the fact that they believe in the constitution then they believe in the oath they took to defendant be the law-abiding people they are supposed to be. >> some democrats say they have major concerns about what kind of documents trum

joining us live to discuss, former republican governor of new jersey christine todd whitman, also founding formed forward party which embraces a moderate approach to issues. governor, thanks so much for joining us. what is cheney's loss which was overwhelming tell you about the state of the republican party? >> well, it tells me what i believed all along, that it is no longer a party, it is a cult of donald trump. he controls the apparatus and the people who believe in donald trump believe in donald trump. i mean this is a woman who voted with trump 90% of the time. and it was only when she finally stood up and said i will not support these lies that are undermining people's confidence in our government. and our rule of law. and she stood up as a patriot and yet these people who claim to be really great patriots and all they care about is the good of the country are willing to walk away from her and such huge numbers. it just tells you that this is where the republican party is and that is where it will stay for quite a while i'm afraid. >> the lincoln project said in a statement about che

has tens of thousands of americans signed up co-chaired by former governor of new jersey christine todd whitman. and the fact 62% of americans -- >> are you just promoting yourself, are you just promoting yourself with this? >> again, jim, there are, as you can easily imagine, there are hundreds of better ways to go about promoting a book than starting a political party to do so. i'm building this party because 62% of americans want it. we're more polarized than ever. the two parties have divvied up the country so that 79% to 90% of races are uncompetitive. most of the people watching this right now aren't even living under a two-party system. they are living under one party. >> the other week i asked a veteran democratic strategist james carville about what he thought of the forward party, and he had quite a strong reaction. let's listen to that. >> i think a nation awash in really stupid ideas, this stands out as a really stupid idea. ralph nader elected george w. bush in 2000. jill stein basically elected donald trump in 2016. and the only possible thing this could do is bleed some moderate

he worked for governor christine todd whitman both when she was governor of new jersey and when she became epa administrator during we first administration of president george w bush. he also served as director of strategic communications for the new jersey department of environmental protection and has some fantastic stories about the work that really did wonders to preserve and promote wildlife environmental protection in the state of new jersey the garden state fitting for earth day and topics of environmental concern. he worked for representatives dean gallo and rodney freelinghausen and senator jeff chiazza during his distinguished career. so he has congressional background as well. so with executive background with environmental background with congressional background, we really feel that you couldn't find a better speaker to talk about the environmental decade how president nixon worked with congress to advance legislation including creating the environmental protection agency in order to you know, meet the conservation goals and the environmental protection goals of a renewed inte

a centrist third party, christine todd whitman, andrew yang, david jolly.that something that seemed appealing to you, based on the answer you gave me, i'm starting to wonder. >> well, i'm starting to wonder when we ought to start worrying more about our country than we do our political parties. that's what scares me. i think we have to come back to what our purpose of being in washington for and who we're working for. we're not working for any party. we're not working for any political idealism. we're working for basically right now very challenging world that we're in. we have got what's going on in europe right now, geopolitical unrest, threats from china to taiwan and all this going on, and here we are bickering over political outcomes and who is going to be in charge of what. right now let's take care. the american people, inflation is killing them. it is killing them. >> senator joe manchin. >> we have to take care of that. >> the democratic elected senator from west virginia, senator, always good to have you on. thank you, sir. >> thank you, chuck. go

justine greening, and the former republican governor and now co—chair of the forward party, christine todd whitmanome to the programme. we start with the latest development in the search of donald trump's mar—a—lago estate two weeks ago. a usjudge has ordered the release by tomorrow at noon eastern—time of a redacted version of the affidavit that supported its application for a search warrant. it's a document that contains a lot of detail. in it, thejustice department had to lay out for the judge why they thought there was a probable cause for a crime and that evidence existed of that crime at the florida resort. and it's a document the us media and donald trump have both wanted unsealed. let's talk with former federal judge, nancy gertner. good to have you with us. on that latest development that they are expecting a release at noon tomorrow, your reaction? i expecting a release at noon tomorrow, your reaction? i am very surprised- _ tomorrow, your reaction? i am very surprised- the — tomorrow, your reaction? i am very surprised. the usual— tomorrow, your reaction? i am very surprised. the usual

tonight with the context, former republican governor of newjersey christine todd whitman and miles taylorerved in the trump administration as chief of staff at homeland security. welcome to the programme: there was a moment this afternoon when the website, flightradar, crashed because so many people were following the progress of a plane that was tracking a circuitous route from malaysia to taiwan. and that is because flight spar 19, was carrying nancy pelosi, house speaker, and the highest ranking us visitor to taiwan, in some 25 years. she landed safelyjust after 11pm, accompanied by a senior delegation of house committee chairmen, in defiance of escalating chinese threats. just after landing, the washington post published the speakers opinion piece, in which she explains some of her thinking. "in the face of the chinese communist party's that might be the official white house position, but at such a delicate moment in us china relations, the pentagon was not in favour of the visit. remember china views taiwan as a breakaway province. and sees this visit as the united states meddling in

tonight with the context, former republican governor of newjersey christine todd whitman and miles taylor

justine greening, and the former republican governor and now co—chair of the forward party, christine todd whitman