i'd love to hear more about christopher. what kind of little kid was christopher? >> funny. and he would do anything that he possibly could to make he laugh and aggravate me, but it would be a funny aggravation, like, i'd tell him, stop doing that. he'd just make fun of me while i'm trying to be serious. chris. people called him the gentle giant and was always that guy that people could go to to talk about their problems and he would listen and comfort them. >> your pants. >> he was voted prom king. school was really important to christopher. he wanted to make sure that he -- his grades were good because he wanted to go to college. he's the first to graduate high school in my whole family. my son has helped me become the person that i am today. i grew up in a home that was extremely chaotic. definitely not love in the home. i'm in a space where i am today because of him. >> you managed to have this amazing kid. >> yes. >> what happened? >> christopher wanted to join the navy straight out of high school, but he ended up being denied because of his diabetes, which created some

christopher: -- mario gabelli happy? christopher: absolutely. we go through the carter days. what is your average holding period? christopher: our turnover is 20%. that is a five year plus. tom: what do you do different from year two to your four -- year four? christopher: we look at private market value for an enterprise. we look at our margin of safety. if the margin expands we will add to it. if it's rings we may trim it. we are looking -- if it shrinks, we may trim it. me about talk to tariffs on u.s. goods. do a lot of these companies automatically put prices up for consumers and what does that mean? christopher: it brings forward an important point which is what is a company's pricing power? services thatnd will be able to push that out to the consumers. obviously this is going to play out over some time. companies may be reluctant to push prices initially but ultimately this will be a tax on the consumer. prefere: would companies to take a hit on margins because it may hurt demand? christopher: obviously it is case-by-case. francine: and

uss wasp, captain christopher herr. [applause] president trump: they like you, christopher. they like you a lot. that's very good, christopher. and the command master chief kevin guy. cheers and applause] popular people. that's great. wow! great leaders. my thanks as well to lieutenant general kevin schneider, commander of the u.s. forces, japan. thank you, kevin. cheers and applause] president trump: vice demirl sawyer, commander of the

>> christopher still is the confidential informant by the fbi. before the dossier, there would be no weren't. the meeting on october 11, 10 days before the application. the fbi was noticed that there confidential informant went to the department of state to urge the department of state to take the dossier and we get to the public to the election. that's about as sick as it gets. i sent it and now we know before the work was ever applied for, the fbi was on notice that christopher steele was trying to get trumps campaign, they used it anyway. >> has a possible that we spent the last two years talking about potential pollution between trump and the russians and then obstruction by donald trump and in fact, when you look at hillary clinton and what has happened here, you've got bleach bit to destroy devices, right? i think heard you on the floor recently say -- >> hammer. >> eighteen devices, i am? if that's not obstruction, i don't know what is. >> the media could care less about clinton, they just want to get. the media never reports it. we're in

lou: i'm talking actually about christopher wray. >> well christopher wray's liability is political.s an empty suit. he came from king and spawlder in atlanta, georgia which is where sally yates went after he left. that will tell you something about king and spaulding. christopher wray has nothing going for him and he hates conflict. listen. he loves comey and mueller. he's one of their closest friends. lou: it's so insay extraordinar. and william barr standing against all of the hateful nonsense in that judiciary committee. >> yep. lou: it is painful to watch and for him to put up with it -- by the way, i know now, after watching him in just a couple of hearings, it's pretty clear why they wanted the house judiciary committee wanted their attorneys on staff to question him rather than risk their own public image. they wouldn't have done well. >> well, bill barr is a great attorney, a great man and the president made a fabulous choice. >> absolutely. victoria thanks so much. joe, thank you. we appreciate, as always, your time. good to have you here. >> thank you. lou: thank you. >>>

i got the call that my best friend christopher fletcher had been shot.g was everything in the world to me. everybody had participated in this war up until this point except me. and everybody looking at me like you ain't did nothing. now these same people that i perceive as family, they are turning their back on me. and i got myself in the mix. what's going on, who is doing what, when is it my turn? that's when it started. around 7:00 or 8:00, we just rolled around the area real slow, and if we see any one of them, we're going to kill them. i was given a 12-gauge shotgun, and all of the shots started ringing out simultaneously. that's it. i did it. >> did you think the car was empty? you thought somebody else was in there? >> i identified the vehicle as being the enemy's -- our rival gang vehicle. >> but if you are shooting into that object, you know inside that object is people. i want to know how you make sense of that in that moment. >> i identified the vehicle, not so much the people that was inside. >> yes. >> although, yes, i could see there were pe

>> yeah. >> so, you asked christopher about what the beef was?s a follower and said that he doesn't know? >> yeah. >> so i'm wondering how is that to have had this question and how would it have been to receive an answer? would that have shifted something for you? would it have made something make more sense? >> i just always wondered why, why did all this have to happen? okay. so for what happened afterwards, that night, so afterwards, i went to my then girlfriend's house out of my own curiosity. the next morning i went to the high school. when everybody whereas crying and everything and the first person i seen in the hallway, i asked her what happened. and she said, we said, lacy was killed last night and then i didn't say anything else. i 1yu67d open my bike and i ran. >> so how did you come to the awareness to confess? and how bad was your conscious bothering you? >> my conscious was bothering me the moment that i was in the hallway and that girl told me what happened. when i did get locked up and go in the hall, i have to sit in it and i jus

christopher: that is always a risk. only to people make mistakes, they get bad information from the field and distorted information from the field. we have the most extraordinary military in the world. it is just a complicated set of decisions they are making. you have that actors in the region trying to provoke a conflict. there are a lot of moving parts and requires a lot of judgment and people know the region very well, and certainly, as measured in reaction as you possibly can given how quickly events are unfolding. david: italy is also in the news. we had the deputy prime minister say this morning, we will spend whatever it takes for an we don't particularly care what the rules europe has about deficits. we are going to change those rules. is that simply election talk because the parliamentary election is coming up, or is there an issue with italy playing by the rules? christopher: it is both. partnerhis coalition telling him to stop disrupting things. they are going into the european elections. but there is a big

beetle stowe coupe a doesn't have its trademark principles shaped rear window though christophe says instead it has a large rectangular rear window that was likely taken from the then brand new b.m.w. 501 christiane says the good view is crucial because this doku pay has no side mirrors only introduced larger rear windows to its mass production beetles in 1957 the. gradual improvements made the v.w. beetle a massive hit in 1955 the car makers celebrated the production of his one millionth beetle by building a luxury beetle coated in gold dust and jewels by this time reaping houses unique stole who pay had already covered tens of thousands of kilometers. have a feel good about kristen says reap in house and put over 400000 kilometers on his custom built v.w. an impressive technical feat for the 1950 s. and sixty's and leap in house and was traveling in style that is leather seats and door panels who are worthy of a rolls royce or a bentley kristoff now itself. would likely have wanted to bring along a suitcase or 2 those story space is pretty limited chris duff points out a clever fol

>> christopher: absolutely. this president has had a number of acting secretaries. people going in and out and not staying long. he cultivates a a lot of chaos. and they would say the chaos is a ladder. that's what the game of thrones would say. any "game of thrones" fans out there? so i'm going to have to skip over if little finger's in the white house. >> carrie: i have no idea what you're talking about. >> christopher: all kidding a side, there is chaos in the white house, is that something american people should be concerned about? >> carrie: you know the president as we know wouldn't call it chaos. and i'm not even sure if you would walk into the west wing, it's not like you go in there and there's like this -- it's not like what you would see like a cartoon, it's not like that. it doesn't look any different than it did with president obama but obviously it it is not he does not run the west wing. he doesn't run the government like any president in modern history. and that's just his style. and i don't think anybody should really have been surprised. given his

christopher bedford, christopher, good to see you. >> good evening.: let's start with what is cuomo doing? what are the democrats in this country doing at the state level? they are anti-citizen, they are pro-illegal immigrant. it's stunning stuff to watch whether it's new york, california, illinois, wherever with it may be. >> sanctuary cities to some of these policies, i think they're putting illegal immigrants ahead of citizen, as you recognized, but they're also trying to conflate all immigrants. i'm an immigrant. i'm a naturalizedded citizen and i'm a woman. and i am concerned when i see efforts that elevate illegal immigration and say, you know what? you can come here, enjoy all the benefits as citizens and legal residents and suffer -- lou: or in some cases, more. >> or in some cases more. and it's concerning. lou: chris, what do you think? >> i think it's pretty crazy. lacking a sense of irony here in new york to say that their courthouses and jails are not places where the law will be enforced. that's a really strange thing. [laughter] and i u

to show you very quickly what christopher reeve's entry is. we kept saying, do we put him in the superman costume? should we put him in a wheelchair? how do we show christopher reeve to people? the picture we put is this one and a wheelchair. i want to hold this up for a sec . the picture we picked for him shows him in this wheelchair and what alexandra said, which i love, and i really struggled with this, this is how we need to be remembered, this is why he is a hero, not because he wore every customer or the underwear on the outside of his pants, which i will do on halloween on occasion. she said to me this picture is one of my favorites of my father. the reason is is because it was taken at the democratic national convention that year, which i had no idea. i picked it because i loved it. she said this was the moment where he realize he needed to make this transition from an actor to an activist and you can see it happening in this picture. that's the picture you pick. of course, i said that every signing we had after that was going to be st

it means the fbi would've been holding four pieces of derogatory information about christopher steele. that he broke his agreement and went to the state department. a two that he gave the state department false information. we can get back to that in a second pair to the same information that was in the dossier. three, that he had a political deadline, meaning that his goal was not to help the intelligence community but to get it out before the election date, and four that he was in contact translating information to "the washington post" and "new york times." if they were in possession of all of that information and then ten days later went to the court and swore the statement, we have no derogatory information about christopher steele, they would have overtly misled the fisa court in order to secure the first fisa warrant against the trump campaign. >> sean: let's go through this, because we know through closed-door testimony that bruce ohr warned everybody at the doj and the fbi in august 2016 before the first fisa warrant october 2016. now what we have is the first concrete eviden

they launder the information to christopher steele. and the most important take away that we found out this week which i'm astonished the mainstream media even in their hackery hasn't picked up is that christopher steele actually told a state department person 10 days before the fisa that his sources were two russian disinformation specialists intimately linked to vladimir putin. it is an amazing story that the media completely missed this week. >> you know, besides what the media missed or intentionally misses or wants to mislead us. i mean the truth is that they are going after each other right now. and as far as i'm concerned, we now have james comey coming out of the woods. he has not been around for a while. we've all of these tweets of him in the woods in loving nature and he talks about you know, being in the was, think is probably looking for hillary. but he talks about after bill barr testified he said look, we've got to bring together a team. spying took place, and there is a basis for concern. and i've got both authorized su

and the dossier author, christopher steele, i thought foreign nationals were not supposed to influence our elections. anyway, steele fed his tainted propaganda with multiple individuals inside the obama administration. high ranking doj official brucel ohr warned everybody in the doj and the fbi that steele was being funded by the clinton campaign. she was paying for all of it. and that his information, her information she paid for, was unverified, that steele hated trump, and hillary paid for it. that was august of 2016. investigative reporter john solomon from "the hill" will join us in a moment with much more breaking news. reporting that the deputy assistant secretary of state kathleen kavalec, well, documented that steele's research was all political. there was an end date, he had an electionic day deadline. ten days later, october 21st, oh, jim comey, mr. jim. 2016, signed off on the first fisa application against carter page swearing that steele was reliable and accurate, and that he verified the bulk of that information, which was hillary's bought and paid for russian lies. reme

so just that fact alone alert this woman that there were problems with christopher steele.n talked to him more often about different things that turned out to be not true. she passed on this message to the fbi. should we at least be talking to this woman and find out more details about the information she had and how sincerely she tried to get the fbi interested in it? >> not only that, david, look at the letter that senator johnson and senator grassley sent to christopher wray and mike pompeo. the ten points that they mentioned in their letter was why, basically, why didn't the fbi check out the dossier that, as it turned out, was bought and paid for by the dnc and the hillary clinton campaign? and so it's, it's hypocrisy at its high. and, you know, we don't -- as the president said, this can't happen to another president. we've got to stop wiretapping innocent citizens and in particular the president of the united states just because a certain number of people did not like him, did not like his thoughts. i'm glad that they're not going to deter the attorney general, and i

alexander christopher and i have talked about rod rosenstein i'm sure might have helped connect some of those dots on his retirement day demon again this is coming back to haunt them and the real collusion the real corruption is going to be coming up absolutely well the problem is that trump is not true in the country as we have seen from the reaction of the media prehistoric to you know that hysterical reaction like crazy you know given our viewer us interest to russia these people can. so they can fall any peace efforts and now let's look at the ukraine you know what that xander has just mentioned that terrible story emerges so poor a shank when he. people helped hillary no surprise to any of us and and when poroshenko felt that actually the united states was basically dumping him preferred india lansky instead he allowed his general prosecutor general yury will tank or one week before the election or 2 weeks before the election to accuse them eric an ambassador in ukraine murray drove on of each morning you're one of each and he accused her of giving him the least of the touchable

christopher: not much.n a decade and a half. last 17 orts tend to 18 years. we had a cyclical bear market in 2018, 70% of stocks down 20% or more. the global markets peaked in january. you have seen this cyclical bear market of this recent phase, and it is hard for us to get too negative. tom: the basic idea is we all by. -- buy. some hold, if you hold. the long-term trend, that is a good line. the fear is we are here or we overshoot to some gloom. what gives you your optimism to stay in the market? christopher: it is difficult to find signs of euphoria. the dominant leader the cycle has been technology and even intech, valuations are not remotely at the excesses we saw last cycle. i have never seen able market die without that and it is to -- a bowl market die without that -- bull market die without that. francine: not investing enough? christopher: clearly weighing on short-term uncertainty, but this word "uncertainty," it is bullish. , when they indices spike it has been consistent with good returns in t

that is christopher steele. and they are unaware of any derogatory information relating to their informant. thus the important part. they were aware of derogatory information. they have the own deputy assistant secretary of state sing his life. >> dagen: let's be clear about this, this is a warrant to spy on a member of the presidential campaign using a document that was unverified. and we know it's largely discredited. it was paid for by the said presidential candidate's opponent. and jim comey had the gall and the nerve and the stupidity to say that he didn't know the clinton campaign and the dnc paid for it? he said he only found that out through the media. roast most recently he told brer that when his book came out. in the rules, the fbi cited "news reports," that u.s. intelligence officials were investigating allegations similar to the christopher steele ones. it turned out that christopher steele admitted in u.k. proceedings in the spring of 2017 that he had briefed the report, that he had essentially pla

it was compiled by christopher steele and fusion gps, and it involves bruce and nellie ohr. here is. watch. >> it's a very unusual situation to have opposition research like that. especially one that, on its face, had a number of clear mistakes and somewhat jejune analysis. to use that to do counterintelligence against a political campaign is a strange -- it would be estranged about men. i'm not sure what role it played but that's something we have to look at. >> harris: and the usual situation paid lawrence? >> lawrence: katie alluded to this in the last block, when bill barr came to the justice department he started to ask questions. he wasn't getting straight answers to these questions. i've got to ask the democrats, when you see something like this between bruce and nellie ohr, do you think that's okay? these interactions of deleting emails, spying on the president, clearly covering up something. is that okay? >> jessica: clearly, spying on the president is problematic. we have christopher wray come a trump appointee, head of the fbi, came out last week and said it wasn'

russia gate hoax and once again the focus is on christopher steele what he knew what he was doing with his dossier research what it was all about who was behind the dossier research and who helped propagate the dusty research and i me to the evidence as to the fact that the d.n.c. was colluding with steele was. looting a fusion g.p.s. was colluding with the government of ukraine has come bell is compelling it's absolutely compelling peter you have christopher steele speaking to the u.s. state department and admitting that the was essentially a political hit you have the u.s. state department passing off that information to the f.b.i. to the intelligence sources and what do they do a few days later they get a feisty a warrant based on that dossier based on that dossier after the u.s. state department said that this guy steele cannot be trusted this information that he has this dossier is ridiculous it is political research and i quote pull political research all all the attention now peter is turning on to steal that's right you know. there are a few fox news channel will say many thing

and, of course, christopher steele, multiple foreign governments, no time for that, either. by the way, i have bad news for the democrats: look at this poll. most americans, they are not interested in mueller appearing before congress. they got it. they read it. it's over. you just don't recognize t a a simple truth. the witch hunt is done. the only thing left now, yes, the second act. that curtain goes up. but you will have the radical base of the democratic party calling for impeachment, even log into trump's second term. nancy pelosi, only speaker of the house in name only, being pushed around by her colleagues, freshman congresswoman socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez is the real speaker, demanding the president be removed from office. and nancy better watch out and listen. >> alexandria ocasio-cortez who i just caught up with, also said this caucus should not be hesitant in moving forward with impeachment. >> you know, i instructed--ou a measured approach to moving everyone forward. [unintelligible] >> sean: you're watching nancy's pelosi, speaker in name only, has lost

the production lines at the christopher ranch packing plant are humming along to could be soon shifted into higher gear. demand for california garlic expected to spike as the increased tariffs on chinese garlic take effect. >> my dream scenario is with this 25% tariff it will be so much the chinese might actually start turning away the containers away from the u.s. >> reporter: christopher ranch the largest u.s. garlic producer, one of only three american garlic growers left standing. or by china's decades- old practice of garlic dumping in which product is sold here cheaper than it took to produce it. >> having chinese garlic be more competitive and play by fear rules of the market means the world for me and my family. >> a lot of other families too. christopher ranch the largest employer in gilroy with a stable workforce who earn a minimum $15 an hour with benefits. a ripple effect on the local economy including workers, truckers and retailers. >> extremely important my job here we rely on garlic to bring customers in. >> it should be a us-made product. >> one customer for morgan doe

christophe. yes you are concerned about what's going on right now yes you want international organizations to step up to do more to for there to be stronger legislation however we all in a global economy the requires almost infinite growth with a planet with finite resources there is has to be a business element to this as well you can't simply say you know we need to stop this from happening you need to be realistic and say yes business takes place that's bad for the planet but that's our planet that's our system. but it's true that we really need to do business we have we need economies so. provide our existence but nobody forces us to. take. lives every week or drive our car every day and we still can cite ourselves what we consume and how much and nobody globally in our political economic system faustus of us saw an ever growing. economy at the expense off of nature we already consume in two planets and we only have one and this is the very reason why if if if if we continue this we will lose

what do you say to that, christopher? >> well, the same thing i did before.i need to put a clarifying on this. i ended up taking the money, so -- i had to take it. it was $20,000 to me. $14,000 of it went to repair a tractor transmission, $2,000 of it went to a nonprofit or two and the rest of it back to taxes. i didn't take it and buy a boat with it. what i said at that time works today as well. it was an indication that the president's policy wasn't working. or certainly wasn't working fast enough. now the president comes back and wants to put an additional amount of money in our pocket. and we have to understand where that money is coming from. up until yesterday, up until yesterday, the president has been very clear that all of these tariff dollars that he wants to transfer to farmers have been coming from china, mexico, so forth, but primarily from china. that's just not true. it's just not true. those monies, those tariff dollars come directly from american importers, from american companies that hire american workers that pay american taxes and when th

keep in mind kavalec and ohr met with christopher steele. issuing a warning about the credibility of christopher steele to the fbi, to the doj prior to that first fisa warrant application against carter page to spy on the trump campaign. and still after the election, documents now show that ohr and kavalec were still obsessed with using the dossier. they knew it was phony, to take the president down. on november 21st, 2016, kavalec emailing ohr a link to a "mother jones" left wing magazine article based on the phony hillary bought and paid for russian dossier. ohr emailed back, "ipa really hope we can get something going here. we will take another look atly this." subsequent conspiratorial email to ohr, kavalec gave a reference her meeting notes with christopher steele, 10 days before the first fisa application is put in.is uh-oh, he is political.ap uh-oh, it's not vetted. nobody verified. from the doj to the state department to the fbi, the highest ranking officials -- not rank and file --dash in all areas of obama's government were totally

back and says christophe here you can tell it's all been built by hand truly one of a kind and we caught it. underneath the hood is the granddaddy of all v.w. engine it's a 4 cylinder boxer engine with $1.00 leaders of displacement and $24.00 horsepower . look at the foot of the crystal says it takes about 50 seconds to accelerate from 0 to 100 kilometers an hour the car's top speed despite the meager $24.00 horsepower doesn't feel slow the car way so little that the engine has an easy time. coachbuilder is rummaged through his and have also developed high end beetle versions and also a number of car maker carmen developed open top models that served as prototypes for v.w. as 1949 beetle convertible but all still ever developed was this one luxury is v.w. still to pay. for its stuff says the v.w. is still coupe a it was one of a kind and a trailblazer by the 1950 s. it had become highly fashionable to customize mass produced cars like the v.w. beetle especially in the us the dune buggy trend was one example of mass produced beetles offered plenty of options for customization and they rea

i recognize cody van bossen of christopher, illinois. cody, a 24-year-old firefighter, passed away in the line of duty early sunday morning. cody grew up around the fire station. he comes from a family with deep traditions of public service. his dad, brent, is a captain on the christopher force. his grandfather is christopher's mayor but was also a firefighter at another fire department. cody's family instilled in him a passion for helping others despite the risk. now, his community will remember him as a hero. cody, thank you for your service. rest in peace. mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the chair recognizes the gentleman from texas, mr. green, for five minutes. thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, last night at a rally in florida, the president referred to me as that man. mr. speaker, i love my country, and still i rise. and i rise today to address the comment that the president made n referring to me as "that man." mr. speaker, the video of what i said speaks for itself. the president i

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i want to thank commanding uss wasp, captain christopher herr. [applause] president trump: they like you, christopher. they like you a lot. that's very good, christopher. and the command master chief kevin guy. cheers and applause] popular people. that's great. wow! great leaders. my thanks as well to lieutenant general kevin schneider, commander of the u.s. forces, japan. thank you, kevin. cheers and applause] president trump: vice demirl sawyer, commander of the u.s. seventh fleet. [cheers and applause] president trump: some of them will be picked for hollywood, and they won't do it. and they like it better. rear admiral, gregory fenton, commander of the naval forces of japan. thank you, general. rear admiral james pitts commander of the submarine group 7. [cheers and applause] and you know we are doing a lot of big submarines. we are building a lot of them. i tell you, the best in the world. not even a contest. really something. i just saw plans for one, no longer the little submarines, these are incredible macheens. brigadier general todd doz

up next, fbi director, christopher wray, on our minds tonight. he picks up for james comey where he left off. unfortunately. lying about spying on the trump campaign. we will take that up and more right after this quick break. judicial watch tom >> i think that spying did occur. yes, i think spying data corporate question is whether it will be predicated. adequately predicated. i'm not suggesting it was not adequately predicated but i need to explore that. lou: attorney general william barr asserting there that spying did occur against the 2016 trump presidential campaign. it apparently isn't the thinking of the fbi director, christopher wray. listen to what he constructed saying this today before the senate appropriations committee. >> and fbi agents conduct investigations against the lynch mobsters suspected terrorists, other criminals, do you believe that they are engaging in spying when they're following fbi investigative policies and procedures? >> well, that is not the term i would use. a lot of people have different colloquial phrases.i be

and then i will pass the baton to christopher.ill never forget my father's last political speech, campaign speech on his own behalf. it was 1980. it was a hard-fought election, as mitch would attest. we went all over the state. i was in 90 of our 92 counties. it was so hard-fought, we got on a plane and flew down to warrick hands with the workers at the alcoa plant, and the poles had not closed yet we could greet the workers coming off of their shift. many of them who would go to vote and helping -- hoping for them to vote for my dad. hands with the workers at the alcoa plant,1980. they can he be proved to be one of those difficult years. 10 democratic senators went down in defeat that year. my father was one of them. we flew back to indianapolis, got off the plane, they told us what the polls were showing, we went back to the hotel, down to the campaign headquarters, on the west side of town. there was a converted auto dealership, it had a spacious place which was filled with probably 2000, 3000 people. we were lucky the fire mar