christopher amolsch, if you can pull all that off in the middle of yale university in a building that is high-tech security, you're not crazy. >> well, i think there's a different obviously between being insane as a defense and having mental issues, which is a mitigation as it relates to sentence. you're probably not going to be able to find him not guilty based on that, but you could probably find him guilty of something less than first-degree murder and maybe spare him, you know, a life in prison. >> based on what? you said something less than murder one based on that. what is "that," sir? >> well, what you're pointing at is all the things he did afterwards, which really doesn't go to what his state of mind was when he committed the crime. >> it's within the same hour. it's not like he went insane and then got well. >> we don't know exactly when he was killed. we do know that afterwards he took steps to try to hide his crime, assuming he did it. that doesn't mean the time he didn't he wasn't operating under some sort of mental deficiency. >> i can't let you get away with that, chris

christopher amolsch, defense attorney out of washington, d.c. bremner, if it can be proved that he tripped the fire alarm, there goes all of this claim for insanity, his claim for crime of passion in the heat of a moment, in the middle of an argument. because he is laboriously and methodically covering his tracks. >> well, that's a great argument, nancy. when i listen to your intro, i felt like as a defense attorney if i was sitting in court i'd be just thinking, oh, case over. but the thing is, this is so weird, of mice and murder. he's worried about the mice cages? you know, he's upset to the pint of wanting to kill somebody? i think in this case there's more to be seen in terms of what's going on in his noggin. it's too bizarre. it will go down in crime as one of the weirdest motives if, indeed, this is a motive. therefore, i think there could be some kind of mental defense. >> okay. i think that was you answering that question by claiming -- >> it was -- >> -- that even though he methodically hid the body, was seen cleaning his own cleaning

that would suggest to me -- let's unleash the lawyers, anne bremner and christopher amolsch, defense attorney out of washington, d.c. ann bremner, if it can be proved that he tripped the fire alarm, there goes all of his claim for insanity, his claim for crime of passion in the heat of a moment, in the middle of an argument. because he is laboriously and methodically covering his tracks. >> well, that's a great argument, nancy. when i listen to your intro, i felt like as a defense attorney if i was sitting in court i'd be thinking, oh, case over. but the thing is, this is so weird, of mice and murder. he's worried about the mice cages? he's upset to the point of going to kill somebody? i think in this case there's more to be seen in terms of what's going on in his noggin. it's too bizarre. this will be a weirdest motive for homicide if this is a motive. therefore i think there could be some kind of mental defense. >> okay. i think that was you answering that question by claiming -- >> it was -- >> -- that even though he methodically hid the body, was seen cleaning his own cleaning eq

that would suggest to me -- let's unleash the lawyers, anne bremner and christopher amolsch, defense attorney out of washington, d.c. ann bremner, if it can be proved that he trip the fire alarm, there goes all of his claim for insanity, his claim for crime of passion in the heat of a moment, in the middle of an argument. because he is laboriously and methodically covering his tracks. >> well, that's a great argument, nancy. when i listen to your intro, i felt like as a defense attorney if i was sitting in court i'd be thinking, oh, case over. but the thing is, this is so weird, of mice and murder. he's worried about the mice cages? he's upset to point of going to kill somebody? i think in this case there's more to be seen in terms of what's going on in his noggin. this will be a weirdest motive for homicide if this is a motive. therefore i think there could be some kind of mental defense. >> okay. i think that was you answering that question by claiming -- >> it was -- >> -- that even though he methodically hided body, was seen cleaning his own cleaning equipment spattered with his