okay, kind of christopher bauer. you said you think of 9/11 as the end of the 90s? is there any point other than the obvious of course that you think of as the beginning? well, i guess i guess i did answer that like i use nevermind sort of as my example of when i think the immutable culture of the 90s began. um, i i think it's it you could pick other things here. i mean, i i do like i somebody was arguing that they think that end of the 90s was actually when facebook starts. and i guess i could see that that sort of contention mean in terms of the internet that is kind of true because you know when we talk about the internet of the 90s, we all understand that that's when it began and we think about the early internet as this transformative device. and yet when people talk about the early internet they often use language and arguments that really only apply to social media like if you ask anybody, you know, like what don't you like about the internet? they're gonna list a bunch of stuff. okay, and they're almost all gonna be connected to the experience of being on tw