christopher c. segoyan, i may pronounce this incorrectly -- are our phones secure and if so -- >> i apologize. >> are foreign governments spying on our cell phones in washington, d.c.? are our phones secure or what should be done? >> do i think there are nation states around the world that are attempting to jen right insight as to what we're doing as individuals, i think the answer to that is yes. the second question is do i -- >> what do you think we should do about it? >> well, one thing i remind people don't assume -- there's a reason why we have unclassified system at the department of defense. the reason why we have classified systems and unclassified systems and so for d.o.d. users, i always remind them hey, look, we're potential targets. make sure you're using your cell phone in an appropriate way. just why i use mine. the standard of encryption we talked about. i'm not arguing that encryption is a bad thing neither where i say security is a bad thing. i'm a u.s. person, i'm a u.s. citizen. i use a c

christopher c. segoyanmay pronounce this incorrectly -- are our phones secure and if so what could be done? >> i apologize. i didn't hear the beginning. >> are foreign governments spying on our cell phones in washington, d.c.? are our phones secure or what should be done? >> do i think there are nation states around the world that are attempting to jen right insight as to what we're doing as individuals, i think the answer to that is yes. the second question is do i -- >> what do you think we should do about it? >> well, one thing i remind people, don't assume -- there's a reason why we have unclassified system at the department of defense. the reason why we have classified systems and unclassified systems and so for d.o.d. users, i always remind them, hey, look, we're potential targets. make sure you're using your cell phone in an appropriate way. just why i use mine. just the way i make sure i use mine. the standard of encryption we talked about. i'm not arguing that encryption is a bad thing neither wher