there is some specificity there. >> going back to what christopher clark, how he differentiated betweenism and the market, i might take a stab at that and connect it with rogan. clark said capitalism entails a complete change in social relations between people. so, there is a new relationship created under capitalism between employer and employee, for example, that did not exist before. in a market society, there is still -- there still might be farmers taking their produce to a central location. but to use a marxist term, the social relations of production have not changed quite yet. if you take that definition, i think in rogan's book it is obvious this society has become completely capitalist. rogan always talks about transitioning from a household economy to a market economy. there are classes that developed. america became a class society. he says that somewhere. he talks about the extremes between rich and poor and the new relationships between employer and employee. i believe in that sense this is a new capitalist society. professor feller: we have a lot of rich issues here. i th