i have debated both members of the christian right and of course christopher hichens in berkeley and sam harris at ucla and they can't hear what i am saying. they can only attack their caricature of who i am and that is what the christian right does as well. if i am debating the christian right has i have then i am up proposed of godless secularism. if i am debating a new atheist then i believe in magic and angels and miracles which i don't. and i think that fundamentalism can come in secular form. it can come through the language of scientific rationalism. the political agenda of figures such as hichens or harris is no different from the christian right. they elevate western civilization. they are attacking the muslim wards because they are barbaric or by the christian right forces of satan. the result is the same. what it really is at its core is self exaltation in both cases. it is about elevating me above everyone else. morally, spiritually and intellectually and abrogating the right to impose what i define as a virtue by force on those who are different. both the new atheist jew