we will speak to the last person in charge of protecting our country from cyberattack, christopher krebs. that's coming up s. >>> welcome to tuesday. it is "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. we've got a busy hour ahead. i promise you that. any moment now president biden is expected to begin a meeting with a bipartisan group of governors to discuss covid vaccination. that comes as the fda is now authorizing pfizer's vaccine for 12 to 15-year-olds. we will have more on that as we begin the hour. >>> but for now we will talk about what's emanating from mar-a-lago. house minority leader kevin mccarthy formally identified they will vote to dump liz cheney from leadership. as we noted before, the lie has consumed the gop. just look at what happened with republicans in virginia, where an exceedingly bizarre and trump-infused convention ended up having to choose a gubernatorial nominee in glen young kin, who found himself campaigning on the issue of election integrity. and he's one of the republicans who refuses to say if biden won the election legitimately. biden got youngkin's approval to

his name is christopher krebs. chris krebs was the person in charge of cisa, that agency during the trump administration. and it's possible you're a cyber security nerd. it's possible you're a cisa groupie. and so you know him anywhere. you'd know him even before what he went through before the election. but if mr. krebs is familiar to you by sight, it is more likely that you remember him because of the way he lost his job as the head of cisa at the very end of the trump administration. last fall, cisa's main responsibility was to keep one particular piece of american critical infrastructure safe, our election infrastructure. it was their job to keep our elections safe and secure from malicious interference. but when former president trump started spreading lies and conspiracy theories about made-up fraud and interference in the elections, cisa had to decide what to do. they're in charge of protecting the elections from malicious interference. when that malicious interference didn't happen, but there were lies bein

his name is christopher krebs.erson in charge of, cisa the agency during the trump administration. possible that you are cybersecurity, nerd if possible you are a cisa groupie, so you would know that he went through before the election. but if mr. krebs is familiar to you by side it is more likely that you remember him because of the way he lost his job as the head of cisa at the very end of the trump administration. last fall, cisa's main responsibility was to take part of one major piece of our infrastructure safe. the election infrastructure it was our their job to keep our elections safe from with militias interference. but when president trump started spreading lies and conspiracy theories about made-up fraud and interference in the election, since ahead to decide what to do. they are in charge of protecting the election from malicious interference. when that malicious interference did not happen, but there were lies being spread about the fact that it did in order to undermine confidence in the election, they

. >>> next, former cybersecurity official christopher krebs and former congressman will hurd discuss from abroad and how the spread of disinformation is affecting democracy. this was part of

you are sitting there pretty much refuting everything christopher krebs has mentioned. it is curious how trump is only challenging elections and he states he lost, but what about the states he won? is there any fraud in the states -- in those states we should look into? we have the lowest voter turnout in all western nations. the thing the heritage foundation is doing is going to squash that. the constitution does not say you have to have any id to vote. i hope the heritage foundation is aware of that. these ideas you are pushing about with an id, that is all you hear about from fox news and from people like you. that is ridiculous. we have people in arizona recounting the ballots saying chickens ate the ballots and stuff like that. you're making a mockery and i wish you would stop that. host: thanks for the call. guest: again, we have somebody trying to insult me personally. i believe in democracy. in first generation american, my parents grew up in a tyrannical regime. i don't need you or anyone else telling me that i'm making a mockery of democracy. what i am trained

. >> more from the mccain institute with former cyber agency director christopher krebs and former congressman will heard talking about the impact of this information campaigns and the cyber threats posed by russia and china. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] >> senior foreign affairs correspondent at cbs news, i have had the privilege of interviewing both of our next guestd a number of times, and i am sure that you will enjoy the conversation today with chris krebs, and currently the cofounder of krebs group, and will heard served as former senator until his retirement this year, and before that, he was a cia clandestine officer. welcome. >> pleasure to be with y'all. >> i want to start with you and i know you are out of office, so you can answer everything straight on the nose, completely honestly now. >> why it was that an assumption as i did not in the past. i have always shot you straight. >> you have. it was out of texas, a texas

. >>> next, former cybersecurity official christopher krebs and former congressman will hurd discuss threats from abroad and how the spread of disinformation is affecting democracy. this was part of an event that was hosted by the mccain institute. >> i'm margaret brennen, moderator of face the nation. i've had the privilege of entering our guests many times. chris krebs, the co-founder of krebs stamos group. will hurd served as republican representative for texas's 23rd congressional district until his retirement this year and before that, he was a cia clandestine officer. welcome. >> glad to be with you. >> congressman, i want to start with you. i know you're off office. so you can answer everything straight on the nose, completely honestly now. >> come on, i've always shot you straight. >> you have. but i want to ask you, it was out of texas, the texas-based company solar winds that made that software update available last spring, provided the entry point for one of the largest hackings in u.s. history. now we have the biden administration officially attributing it to russian inte

bush christopher krebs is the former head of the u.s. cybersecurity agency, he and former congressman, -- spoke at the mccain institute about disinformation and its impact on democracy. this is just over half an hour. >> margaret, brendan moderator of face the nation, -- host of cbs news, i've had the privilege of interviewing both of our next guests a number of times and i'm sure you will enjoy the unprecedented day with chris krebs who's all well known to, you the director of cybersecurity and cybersecurity agency and the cofounder -- of will hurd as you all know is the representative for the 23rd congressional district until his retirement this year and before that he was a cia clandestine officer so welcome. not >> quite to be with you all. >> i want to start with you. i know you are out of office, i know you can answer everything straight on the nose completely honestly now. >> i didn't in the past. come on, i'm always -- >> you have. >> i want to ask you. it was adam, texas, the company called solar winds that made the update avail

. >> more from the mccain institute with former cyber agency director christopher krebs and former congressman will heard talking about the impact of this information campaigns and the cyber threats posed by russia and china. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] >> senior foreign affairs correspondent at cbs

we will speak to the last person in charge of protecting our country from cyberattack, christopher krebsesday. it is "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. we've got a busy hour ahead. i promise you that. any moment now president biden is expected to begin a meeting with a bipartisan group of governors to discuss covid vaccination. that comes as the fda is now

joining me, christopher krebs, former director of the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agencynd security. chris, good to have you back on. >> thanks for having me. good to see you. >> the u.s. remains the top target of this disinformation, but its ranking, which we'll put on the screen here, now as the number four source of disinformation, number four in the top five after only russia, iran and myanmar. does this show that disinformation is now equally or perhaps even principally a domestic problem in this country? >> the joke i've made at least recently is disinformation is probably the world's third oldest profession. we all know what the first one is. intelligence operations is the second and propaganda or disinfo is the third. it's a tool, one more tool our foreign adversaries have used. now that the playbook is out there pretty broadly, we're now seeing this emergence of disinformation as a service. if you look at the organizations conducting these organizations domestically, it's pr firms and media relations firms. it's one more front that i think corporations and govern

bush christopher krebs is the former head of the u.s. cybersecurity agency, he and former congressman, -- spoke at the mccain institute about disinformation and its impact on democracy. this is just over half an hour

you are sitting there pretty much refuting everything christopher krebs has mentioned. it is curious how trump is only challenging elections and he states he lost, but what about the states he won? is there any fraud in the states -- in those states we should look into? we have the lowest voter turnout in all western nations. the thing the heritage foundation is doing is going to squash that. the constitution does not say you have to have any id to vote. i hope the heritage foundation is aware of that. these ideas you are pushing about with an id, that is all you hear about from fox news and from people like you. that is ridiculous. we have people in arizona recounting the ballots saying chickens ate the ballots and stuff like that. you're making a mockery and i wish you would stop that. host: thanks for the call. guest: again, we have somebody trying to insult me personally. i believe in democracy. in first generation american, my parents grew up in a tyrannical regime. i don't need you or anyone else telling me that i'm making a mockery of democracy. what i am trained