and christopher mccabe of the wireless association. he is the vice president. gentlemen, thank you very much. matt wood, as soon as this report came out, the free press issued a statement saying that the wireless industry is not competitive. why? >> because we have got to dominant companies, verizon wireless and at&t serving more customers than anybody else. we think are too many structural barriers to entry and growth and consumer should have better access to them and we did not have the benefits because of the dominant players controlling such a large portion of the street. >> matt wood, what the think of the fact the fcc did not take a position on competition? >> there is enough evidence that the industry is not competitive. the fcc did a good job presenting all of the complex data. it points to a single conclusion, which is there is not an effective competition -- there is not enough effective competition and that hurts consumers because they did not have as many options as they might, especially for high-end plans for the most popular smart phones and devi

joining us to discuss the results are christopher guttman-mccabe of the wireless association and matt wood of the consumer group, free press. >> host: well, the federal communications commission recently issued its congressionally-mandated annual report on competition in the wireless industry. this is the 15th annual report. that's our topic this week on "the communicators." here's the conclusion of the federal communications commission. the 15th report makes no formal finding as to whether there is or is not -- >> host: well, joining us to discuss this issue is matt wood of the policy group free press. he's their policy director. and chris guttman-mccabe of ctia, the wireless association. he's the vice president. gentlemen, thank you very much. matt wood, as soon as this report came out free press issued a statement saying that the wireless industry is not competitive. why? >> guest: we think it's not effectively competitive because we have two dominant companies, verizon wireless and at&t taking in more profits and revenues than anyone else, and there are other players around the ed