christopher mihm will be with us until the bottom of the hour. this chart shows the three biggest drivers of long-term fiscal spending, health care, social security, interest on the debt. which of those is the easiest to bend down? guest: it would be great if any of them were easy to bend down. the viewers with the last segment saw the challenges we have on health care costs. medicare, just on social security and interest on the debt, we are projecting a $3 trillion increase in federal spending over the next decade, two thirds of that increase will come from those three kind of broad program areas. and so, you know, i would not characterize it as being easy, but to the extent we can begin to pay, or piling less debt on and decreasing the ratio, we are about 76% debt to gdp now, that is money that comes back without any other different choices that need to take place. host: what is the tipping point? you talk about using hard decisions, these fiscal pictures look decades into the future. when did these decisions need to be made? guest: we need to