shipping between europe and asia. joining me now from the city, if from sir in no way is mobs, christopher nixon, man is the executive director at the economic council, which is an independent organization which represents industries in the arctic region. thank you for joining us. mads. now the arctic is quite different from other parts of the world. many people might not be familiar with it. can you tell us about economy? what does it involve? traditionally, there are 2 region has been play for tourist shipping for many years and, and fishing, but, but it's also, it's changing, it's changing a lot these years. we have birth school farming. satellite companies are looking north by innovation, but overall you can say the arctic region is the region of opportunities for many, many countries in the world are struggling with the energy needs at the moment. so how have the global demand for energy resources impacted your economy? people are definitely looking north for many reasons, but also for energy reasons. traditionally, we had the, i mean this weekend has been 11 way or another energy export or