our panelists are christopher tollefson come to see was professor of philosophy university of south carolina, charles rubin, associate professor of political science duquesne university, and author of eclipse of man, human extinction, and the meaning of progress. adam piper of the ethics and public policy center, manager of the new atlantis. christopher. >> thank you very much. it's a pleasure to be here. unlike most of the panelist so far, i'm not a former student of leon. in fact, i feel the need to ask permission, can i call you leon? okay. with that, even though i'm not a student i didn't feel a special kinship with leon yesterday. my wife and i homeschool our children and i was very surprised to hear him describe so accurately at the end of the q&a session high school curriculum, first year bible. [laughing] but it might be at c-span so i will not say more about that. [laughing] >> so our panel titled is bioethics and the transhuman future. in an e-mail to me, brad wilson also through into the subject heading the word post human future just for good measure. the question i'm going to as