christopher wray appears to be trying to cover up for james comey and corrupt in the ways for example, suing to block the release of documents that are frankly, you know, they contain mostly information that has been in the clear. absently open sources. >> yes so those, it's an interesting lawsuit. often times you're trying to protect your methods and sources or if you see intelligence from a foreign intelligence source, in this case it doesn't appear to meet any of the qualifications. until the good news and i hate to say this, i think sometimes wanted to be media but a court will probably take that and review it, see what the arguments are and make a good decision. then you have the right to appeal. i think ultimately the information will get out and we need more transparency, more accountability. i think some of the challenges, once you have the transparency and accountability they will be able to restore the integrity and the people's belief in the department of justice and fbi lozano was there and i know the man and the woman at the fbi and doj and the rank-and-file are solid and

. >> fbi director christopher wray testified before the senate judiciary committee regarding oversight of his agency. he was questioned by senate democrat dick durbin about the response to domestic terrorism and white supremacist violence. sen. durbin: mr. wray, welcome. i would like to ask you a question. do you know what group was responsible for more homicides from 2000-2016, more than any other domestic extremist group? dir. wray: not sure, but i think you're about to tell me. >> not a trick question. i raise the question because your testimony that was submitted to the committee talked a lot about home grown violent extremists.

>> fbi director christopher wray testified before the senate judiciary committee regarding oversight of his agency. he was questioned by senate democrat dick durbin about the response to domestic terrorism and white supremacist violence. sen. durbin: mr. wray, welcome. i would like to ask you a question. do you know what group was responsible for more homicides from 2000-2016, more than any other domestic extremist group? dir. wray: not sure, but i think you're about to tell me. >> not a trick question. i raise the question because your testimony that was submitted to the committee talked a lot about home grown violent extremists. in an and classified f.b.i.-d.h.s. joint intelligence bulletin in may, 2017, it found that white supremacist extremism poses persistent threat of lethal violence. it went on to say that white supremacists are responsible for more homicides from 2000 to 2016 than any other domestic extremist movement. seven members of the committee joined me in writing a letter to you and attorney general barr explaining our concern about whether the f.b.i. and department of

christopher wray sees it, george p. bush sees it.e evidence that the white house sees it. >> i think some people in the white house would accept that. i don't think the president himself accepts that. but what i think is undeniable, apart from what the white house believes, you know, normally i loathe to blame politicians for the acts of people take on their behalf. i don't think it was bernie sanders' fault that one of h supporters shot up. but i think the president changed the they people think it's acceptable to treat their political opponents. just friday he tweeted seeming to celebrate a robbery of a congressman's house. elijah cummings saying "too bad!" i think he bears some responsibility or easy to blame him given statements like that. even though he tweeted something seemingly appropriate today. and i think that trump has sort of brought on an increasing sort of brutality toward the political -- our political opponents that is generally unwelcome. >> can you defend any of this? the president's words and statements and his --

fbi director christopher wray testified before the senate judiciary committee on july 23 regarding oversight of his agency. he was questioned by senate democratic whip dick durbin about the fbi's response to domestic terrorism and white supremacist violence. >> mr. ray, welcome. i would like to ask you a question. do you know what group was responsible for more homicides from 2000-2016, more than any other domestic extremist group?

last week fbi director christopher wray talked about the mystic terrorism and white supremacy. this took place during a senate oversight hearing. >> welcome. i would like to ask you a question. do you know what group was responsible for more homicides 000 to 20 more than any other domestic extremist group? ir. wray: i am not sure but guess you are about to tell me. drubin: your testimony talked about homegrown violent extremism. idea dhs joining telogen bulletin in may of 2017 found that white supremacist

and frankly i see not much daylight between christopher wray, james comey, robert mueller and the entire bunch of -- bureaucrats to be kind. who have led the fbi. >> that is when trying to do. call attention to this. i believe that we will get there attention because the president is drawing a great deal of attention to antifa, there tactics. and what andy winter is unbelievable so for the fbi, the authorities in the country have not done enough to address the threat of antifa. we are calling on them to do the right thing and do just that. lou: and the president in dealing with this issue, he correctly i believe, included ms-13. it is staggering to me that ms-13 has not been designated as such as well. would you agree with that in addition to antifa?>> there's no question about it. the hypocrisy of all of this is stunning. antifa or ms-13, if they were pro-trump organizations, is all we would hear about on the left of media. and something would be done about it. but because these are left-wing ideological groups, who employ violent tactics, you have yet to hear a single democrat official

. >> and drew mccabe was saying when christopher wray testified that andrew mccabe was saying the numbershat chris wray was talking about is a big jump from what it was in the past. >> it's not just the numbers. i served with and drew 15 years ago. it's how we have to look at the evolution of this which in some ways is an opportunity for the fbi. this is not just this individual will look like he's operating in isolation. it's not just whether the individual operates in isolation. it's whether he people are talking online, whether his manifesto includes language from other manifestos he researched. i guarantee you are are people overseas looking at tactics to determine whether they want to attack in the same manner. the fbi has an opportunity to look at this and see are there online activities including informal networks that we can study over time to determine whether we can follow and find people who will do this in the future. this is getting more international, anderson. that's one of the pictures here. >> charles, what do you make of you know, the idea of empowering the fbi to invest

, the president did speak with the attorney general bill barr at length and the fbi director christopher wray. wray has testified he does believe white national ichism i rise and a growing threat in this country, something the president has downplayed in the oval office at several points. one occasion in particular when he said he did not see it as a growing threat to this country. the president was asked questions by several reporters there, but he did not go into detail beyond just saying he's going to make that statement tomorrow and that he has been talking to members of congress about what to do in wake of these shootings that happened just hours apart. what route is the president going to take there and is it going to be one he sticks by. you'll remember after past shootings, the president has raised things like banning assault weapons. raising the minimum age to purchase some of those assault weapons from 18 to 21. statements the president later backed off of after he met with several top nra officials here at the white house, even though he said he wasn't scared of the nra. he implied

here's christopher wray discussing the issue just last month. >> in terms of number of arrests, we have the third quarter of this fiscal year had about give or take 100 arrests in the international terrorism side which includes the homegrown extremism. >> this year. >> but we've also had the same exact number, again, do not quote me on the exact digit, on the domestic terrorism side. i will say that a majority of domestic terrorism cases that we have investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacy. >> martha: joining me now is sean spicer. good to have you here tonight. thank you. he asked you point point blankn you were in the white house, was their encouragement on the part of homeland security officials, where they nudging in saying that we need to spend more resources and more energy on domestic terrorism and suggestion of this piece saying the president didn't like to deal with white supremacy terrorists or issues, he didn't want to believe there was an increase in it. perhaps somehow thinking it would politically be linked to him in the media even

christopher wray seemed to have a concerted desire to put this on the map. i think the fact those words were shortly before what we saw this weekend in el paso was some striking timing. striking, guess, tim, here we go again. the intelligence committee had to fight with russia with one hand behind our back with a president who stood in helsinki,ion about those intel guys and gals. putin is real strong. putin, after the mueller report was received, after donald trump heralded it, unheralded it, sitting next to the president and asked if he would ask him to stay out of our lives, he did it glibly as a joke. chris wray didn't have to underscore the threat of white supremacy. we have law enforcement fighting against white supremacy, when the messages were in ads paid for. the trump campaign bought ads on facebook with the same attacks on immigrants in the killer's manifesto, the invasion claim. president trump's facebook advertising campaign has harnessed the invasion of the southern border and the same he voiced at campaign rallies and twitter. since january, t

sadly i must report that the new fbi director, for some inexplicable reason, christopher wray is now stonewalling the investigation into the investigators every step of the way. that is not a good sign for cleaning up what i have said is the premier law enforcement agency in the world. with more on this breaking news report, john solomon. i'm reading your piece, we had critical, crucial, key information and you didn't even point to where we can find it. comey did not allow his investigators access to it, why? >> it's an unclear answer whether it was a blunder or an intentional effort to bury evidence. what's disturbing about the fact that we don't know the answer is the inspector general michael horowitz identified this failure in the email case a year ago. you had to attorney generals since then, jeff sessions and bill barr. if we had chris wray in charge and despite numerous letters from senators grassley and johnson, the justice department has yet to respond to let us know even after the fact, they went to look at this evidence the fbi agents themselves said was important for them

the only person over there that i think is going to try and prevent that is christopher wray. i think has really been co-opted by the fbi bureaucracy. >> harris: your reaction? >> i don't quite agree with the former senator . i think chris is, again, a good honest broker. i do think he needs to err on the side of transparency, as you suggest. let's take a step back -- harris, normally this fisa court, which you correctly point out is a secret court that meets in washington, d.c., in a very closed setting, normally they are granting warrants. search warrants and interception warrants -- to listen to what people normally understand as spies. people who come over here and work as spies. the court is not used. these warrants aren't used to follow around your political opposition, which may be what happened here. >> harris: wow. there are so much of this to peel back. this is exactly what william barr had said he would do. he would find out the origins. real quickly, is there anything -- people are talking about bombshells. certainly didn't see that with the mueller report. you are

another thing that christopher wray said is not only domestic terrorism up or domestic terrorist arrests up in 2019 as opposed to 2018, but the vast majority of them are right wing right nationalists domestic terrorist. it's not just democrats are out here saying that this is a threat. it is the head of the fbi saying that. and then there is other people in the fbi daying that they have been stymied in making some of these arrests or doing some of these investigations because there is a political problem with targeting people that the president of the united states is likely to regard as part of his base. >> well, here is michael savidge, who is a friend of the president and right-wing radio said. he was very disappointed in the president attacking white supremacy. it will cost him tens of thousands of votes. there is this real gas lighty thing. i was reminding myself in charlottesville where he came out and did this half-hearted thing and said both sides and read another statement and then game out again and erased and that said there is fine people on both sides. he is sending the mess

including the warning from christopher wray earlier this year about white supremacist.nder funding these measures. >> the biggest threat to americans right now are other americans. we can talk about russia, we can talk about north korea, we can talk about mexicans but really on a day-to-day basis, going to a movie, walmart, the church, sending your kids to school, the biggest threat are other americans. the government needs to get their act together, the president needs to take a stand, regardless of the political ramifications he may face, take a stand against this. by the way, during the time of the dayton shooting, there were seven people shot in chicago. while we can talk about white supremacy and it is a problem in this country, we need to talk about guns, guns, guns, and psychos running around the country shooting up the country. >> guns and the magazines, too, let's be clear. mary ellen, let me ask you this. as a profiler when you look at motivation, you look at the manifesto, the el paso shooter echos the anti-immigrant feeling frankly stoked by the president. w

. >> let me just read you what christopher wray the fbi director had to say.id we've had more domestic arrests than the prior year a majority of domestic terror cases are racially motivated, somehow some version of what you might call white supremacist violence, but it includes other things as well. how does this fit into the broader picture, ben? >> sure. basically on the internet and on these extremist sites, there are people rooting each other on to commit these attacks based on white supremacist literature that's been algorithmically driven to people who need answers in their lives. qanon is part of this who gives people who have lost their identity or their jobs, and it's gruesome answers for them. but it allows them to see the world in a much more positive light in their own terms. that sort of extremist violence comes from this lit on the internet, comes from white nationalist violence. their overlaps are stark between qanon and violence. this is the sort of thing that they are now looking at because they have to. the numbers show that this is a real th

we heard about that from fbi director christopher wray less than a month ago but also resources. this is approached differently. while it can be investigated as domestic terror, it can't be charged as domestic terror. that's why they're looking at hate crime charges. federal firearm charges. he has been charged with capital murder. not only is he being held without bond, he did request a defender but he also wrote down that he's been unemployed for five months, which is interesting in itself. living with his grandparents. he's been in allen, texas, as you pointed out, hours and hours away from here, living with them for a couple of years. when it comes to how we got here, the fact that he's alive changes everything from what we saw in dayton. there was this manifesto, which police believe this 2300-word manifesto was in fact published by him. the fact that he was there. we're told he was cooperating up to this point. what that cooperation means is what we'd all like to know. >> that's all about rooting it out. the fact that the perpetrator is no winner is no surprise. who is goin

anti-defamation league in 2018, 78% of the murders were carried out b white supremacists fbi director, christopher wray version of what you might call white supremacist violence. >> reporter: terror experts warn that posts like that on 8chan would motivate another attack. the founder told "the ne york times" to shut down the site, that it's not doing the world any good steve patterson, nbc news. >>> when we come back, a father who lost his own son in a school shooting, shares his inspirational message. >>> we're back now from texas. today i spoke to one dad who lost his son at the parkland school shooting. he was in el paso during this attack, and he shared his powerful message with me>> thang >> reporter: this morning hours-long lines to donate blood, the center now asking people to stop bringing supplies on the side of a building a mural with a message already partially completed, because it wasn't meant for this tragedy, but another. >> this is not going to stop happening unless we do something. >> the artist manuel oliver lost his son joaquin in the parkland florida shooting last year today would h

. >> look at the comments of his fbi director, christopher wray emphasizing the danger in this country right now. the country is mourning the lives of so many lost so quickly and we keep seeing videos like this day after day. that is dayton, ohio this weekend where video released overnight shows how quickly that gunman was able to kill and how quickly dayton police stopped him seconds before he entered a bar packed with people trying to hide from him. so what can be done and what will be done, jim, to prevent this from happening again? >> i'll tell you, i spent a lot of time in war zones. i've heard those sounds in iraq and afghanistan. that kind of gunfire, to hear it on an american street is just a different story, and yet it's not the first time and likely won't be the last. let's get to cnn's pam brown. she's live at the white house. the president is telegraphing background checks in exchange for immigration reform. any mention of assault weapons or is this going to be the president's path? >> reporter: this morning president trump suggested tying the background checks to reform af

putting pressure on rod rosenstein and christopher wray. office and he also raises issues that they were anti-clinton fbi agents in the new york office who fed information to rudy giuliani, who then went on tv and spewed out by accident. right before the launch the anthony weiner computer probe the end up, buy some analyses by nate silver, for instance, costing her the election. so i think he does have a real case for the stuff to be looked at. i don't know how it turns out, i'm not a lawyer. >> lisa: kennedy? >> kennedy: back to the information about hillary clinton's emails being on anthony weiner's laptop. they knew that in mid-september of 2016 and they didn't act on that information. that was made plain to fbi leadership. so as far as that, peter strzok had a number of choices that he was able to make. he's also the odd human bridge between the end of the hillary clinton email server investigation and the beginning of the trump investigation before the mueller probe. he did make some bad choices and i think on some level he has to take

whether the president's racist rhetoric is playing a role in the uptick of what fbi director christopher wrayibes as a rise in domestic terrori terrorism inspired by white supremacy. and is often the case by the trump team and they find themselves clinging to the dark underbelly of the politics, they are hugging it. is, quote, welcoming that charge. quote, trump campaign officials and sources close to the president tell axios they believe democrats' extraordinary charge that the president as a white supremacist will help him win in 2020. these trump allies tell us that the claim by democratic opponents is not only emboldening his base but also alienating some mainstream republicans who think democrats have gone too far. joining our conversation, ben rhodes. everyone else is still here. ben, i've got to get your thoughts on this idea. i mean, i think being called a racist is about the most horrific thing you can say about someone. you've now got eight of the democrats running to replace him calling him a white supremacist. one, do you agree, and, two, is that really good politics? >> well, i c

last month the fbi told christopher wray domestic terrorism is on the rise. >> just in the first three-quarters of this year we've had more arrests than the prior year. >> reporter: one federal official told cbs news they need a rebalancing similar to 9/11. right wing extremists like isis are congregating on the internet. patri patrick posted on 8chan. >> it's been a total negative in the world. you know, i was very naive and ignorant when i made it. >> reporter: but some law enforcement veterans believe it start at the top when the president has not always take an strong stand against white supremacists like in charlottesville in 2017. >> not all of those people were neo-na neo-na neo-nazis, believe me. >> i think you have to blame him for morally unacceptable lanchs and dangerous s you see, many people ran for cover and took shelter in stores. police said there was no active shooter and cautioned the public not to panic. there were also thankfulntenceda teenager for murdeder is said t walklk out of p prison in t ten today. browown said s she was a a 16-yd sex trafffficking victim m when shoto

we had christopher wray say specifically that is the problem.ssue a statement saying, the fbiaa continues to urge congress to make domestic terrorism a federal crime. that would ensure that fbi agents and prosecute are orz have the best tools to fight domestic terrorism. as someone like yourself who came out of extreme terrorism, do you have the confidence that this government will do something about it? >> no. hate is not a hoax. african-americans were targeted in charleston. mexican americans were targeted in el paso. this is something that's happening in synagogues and mosques and in platces all acros our country, and the rhetoric coming out of the administration is fueling it. we're seeing more and more of this. i don't have faith the administration will be able to counter it. >> so saying a lot of negative thi things about a certain group and individually people act on it, so there is a connection to it. tell us about this story. you were in this world of nationalism and exited it. >> i was recruited when i was 17 years old into the first n

were carried out by white supremacists fbi director christopher wray testified about the threat >> a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we have investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacists. >> reporter: terror experts warn on posts like 8chan could cause the next attack. founder frederick brennan who left the company told "the new tethheimes" they shut down t si, at it's not doing the world any good steve patterson, nbc news. wrinkles just won't. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's derm-proven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. making wrinkles look so last week. rapid wrinkle repair® pair with new retinol oil for 2x the wrinkle fighting power. neutrogena® ♪upbeat musieverything was so fresh in the beginning. [sniff] ♪ dramatic music♪ but that plug quickly faded. ♪upbeat music luckily there's febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. [deep inhale] breathe happy with febreze plug. sure you don't want me i'm very sure.ou? 'cause i can... make good choices... you make good c

>> i think we have the sound of christopher wray talking about this threat. through the othird quarter of this fiscal year had about, give officer take, about 100 arrests on the international terrorism size, which includes the home-grown extremism. >> this year? >> this year, but don't quote me to the exact digit, on the domestic terrorism side. a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we have investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence. >> that warning coming in july. nate snyder, you have the fbi saying to all of us, hey, we have a problem here, las this administration shown willingness to actually try to help that problem, or have they allowed our capabilities to atrophy. >> i think when it comes to this administration specifically, they have systemly neglected and atrophied the actual capabilities that would be working to prevent terrorism attacks like we saw in el paso. >> how so? >> well, specifically my former office, the office of targeted violence and terrorism prevention in about 2016, 2017 had

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. >> i believe it was on july 23rd, christopher wrai was asked about the threat of white nationalism. he seemed to indicate there's a threat through many of the incidents they have been investigating. >> in recent years, more people have been killed by or arrests made in connection with domestic terrorism than foreign terrorism. it's been a real change since 9/11. we've gone in cycles. remember after the oklahoma city bombing, domestic terrorism. now it appears that domestic terrorism is at least as big a threat. coming back to what you said, there's a real commonality here. the internet speeded up the ability by which these people inspire each other. >> pete williams, it's going to be a busy sunday for you. thank you very much. >>> joining me now on the phone is the mayor of dayton nan whaley. our condolences to the city of dayton this morning. what more can you tell us overnight? >> caller: well, thank you, chuck, for your condolences for our community. our community had a pretty tough year. this year already and what we're most amazed by for this incident was an under a minute, the

. >> so, nate, here's the fbi director, christopher wray, testifying about domestic terrorism last month. watch this. >> we, the fbi, don't investigate ideology no matter how repugnant. we investigate violence. and any extremist ideology when it turns to violence, we're all over it. >> so now the fbi has two domestic terror investigations where ideology has turned violent. how does the fbi handle a mass shooter's manifesto like in el paso, in gilroy, when it echos the president's ideology? >> well, i think to be clear, when the fbi or when the intelligence community see a threat or gain intelligence or information of a trend that is imminent, by the time that happens and they learn about it, frankly, it's too late. the fbi are very good at responding. they do great investigative work. they have great analysts and intervene when necessary. they're the best in the world. however, what we're seeing with this is a lot needs to be done in the prevention space, and, frankly, that has been atrophied, it has been neglected under this administration and the offices and government entities that fo

and if you can call christopher wray this, at least a trump appointee. as director of the fbi.ions not to prosecute james comey. it looks like a very -- >> yes. lou: a hard path to bring accountability these officials who have done so much against the interest of the nation. >> i have chris of judicial watch on my show, he is not a person given to hyperbole, he said knowing his sources, what i have have uncovered and representation of u.s. attorney, they durham, there will be people at high level in obama administration who will be charged with very serious felonies to deal with their activity, you have to note, a good prosecutor does not go after the low hanging fruit, they put pressure on those most legally vulnerable this case, lisa page, bruce ohr. and when they have the farm screws turned on them legally, they will give up what obama administration was doing, in a silent coop against donald trump, i know it is tough, we have to wait a little bit, be patient. lou: i would like to see patience at any point in this payoff. i have to say mueller hearing of worth while and the

investigation the way it should have, that is why it is important they clean house, and so sad that christopher wrayer addressed these. >> as bill barr said, i have more questions now than before i became attorney general, that tells you something. lou: why is it that we have not heard anything about nsa, as it relates to 30 thousand missing e-mails of hillary clinton for example. why we have not heard anything from nsa about texts that are missing as a result of the world? victoria in incompetence of the mueller special counsel or dot, dot, dot? it is an amazing collusion of income 1incompetence, possible i corruption, then the surrounding question, why doesn't the nsa have copies of all this. >> they do, they do. in fact we know for a fact that as a result of the generic scoop up program, which is perfectly legal they have every e-mail, text-message, it all there, when we were told that hillary clinton had delighdie -- deleted e-mails my response was okay that is fine. >> they do have them. lou: why is not the executive of this government going to nsa bringing it forward? and investigating the inv

lou: i cannot figure out christopher wray or the frankly, you know -- >> i can.going to let any dirt come out, that means i am cleaning house. i'll protect the fbi by hiding everything and then no one will know the horrible things that went on, that is what he is doing. lou: let's turn togoing after justice kavanaugh this is the stuff of evil. what jerry nadler is doing, the radical dimms bewom, the becomee without consciou conscience. without foundation, denying the realities, still they attack 'president, this administration. and terms of kavanaugh, his appointee, this is evil personified in one chairman of the judiciary committee. >> well put, brett kavanaugh was confirmed by u.s. senate, that is a senate function, they said they are satisfied with him, the house of representatives through nadler saying, well we're not so sure we'd like to investigate his background when he was staff secretary for president bush. that is nonsensical, this is not a legitimate legislative purpose, this is vexacious and invidious. it awful, i think they will be slapped down this

should have, that is why it's important that they clean house and that is why it is so sad that christopher wray has never addressed any of these problems. >> and as bill barr said when he was attorney general for a couple of months, he said, i have more questions now than before i became attorney general. that tells you something. lou: why is it that we have not heard anything about the nsa? as it relates to the 30,000 missing emails of hillary clinton for example. why is it we have not heard anything from the nsa but texts that are missing as a result of what was the word, victoria? incompetence? of the mueller special counsel or ... it is an amazing collusion of incompetence and possibly corruption. that leaves us with these questions and then, the surrounding question is, why doesn't the nsa have copies of all of this? >> they do! they do, in fact, lou, they do! we know for a fact that as a result of the generic scoop up program which is perfectly legal, that they have every email, text message, it is all there. when we were told that hillary clinton had deleted these emails, my response was

earned shep an insult over twitter from the president of united states, this is a reminder, christopher wrayongress on july 23. >> through the third quarter of this fiscal year, had about, give or take 100 arrests in the international terrorism side, which includes the home-grown violent extremism. >> this year. >> this year. but we've also had just about the same number, again, don't qu

christopher wray has done zero to reform the institution, and he's fighting tooth and nail anything thatmake the fbi look bad. and you've got mad theler over there harassing -- nadler harassing the president while the fbi was abusing the president and there's been no accountability, no oversight by congress. and it's up to judicial watch -- and we're happy to do the work, lou, but isn't it outrageous that we're doing more than the justice department and congress to figure out what went on in spygate and all these abuses? lou: it is outrageous but keeply troubling and, i believe it should be deeply troubling to every american, to think that the democrats in control of the judiciary committee and the house intelligence committee in charge of the house. haven't the integrity to insist on this kind of conduct ending and insist on on transparency and openness with the american people? this should not be a partisan issue unless, in point of fact, it is a partisan conspiracy; that is, a democratic conspiracy. because it is otherwise, to me, inexplicable, the behavior of the democratic party in

lou: asleep at the wheel or worse, victoria, i can not figure out christopher wray, and i can not figure out frankly the fbi itself. >> i can. i can figure him out. it's a jeff sessions syndrome and that is i'm not going to let any dirt come out because that would mean i'm cleaning house. i'm going to protect the fbi by hiding everything and then no one will know the horrible things that went on. that's what he's doing. lou: and let's turn to going after justice kavanaugh, joe. i mean, this is the stuff of evil, what vary nadler is doing, what the radical dems have become they're without conscience, they are without foundation, they are denying the realities here, and still, they are attacking this president, his administration, and in the instance of kavanaugh, his appointee, appointment of justice kavanaugh to the supreme court and his confirmation. this is evil personified in one chairman of the judiciary committee. >> well put. this is in cid eus what nadler is doing. let's remember, brett kavanaugh was confirmed by the united states senate. that is a senate function. they said they'