welcome back to the program, christy mcdonald. am i right that there were these dire warnings up until just a day or so ago that pension cuts could be enormous? >> absolutely, judy. that's probably part of the negotiation process. you don't come to the table with the best deal. you have to start the negotiation. the negotiations have been coming fast and if you arous since the city put the first plan of adjustment on the table a month or so ago which is the road map of how detroit is going to get itself out of bankrupt six there's been a lot of -- bankruptcy. there's been a lot of back and forth and also moving parts in different aspects to try to offset the pension cuts. it's something called the grand bargain. it's what we're calling it in the city of detroit. what it is is $815 million that would help protect art at the dia from being liquid dated and sold to offset pension cuts. some of the money would come from foundations. $350 million of that would also come from the state. >> woodruff: what turned this snarn because there