associate's degree and is working towards a we're thrilled to welcome jonathan cabrera along with christy nyemeck to the yellow couch. thanks for being back you guys. nice to meet you too. let's talk about why you have gone back to leveling up your degree. >> a lot of people start with diploma or associate's degree and want to move up to the next one. it's really taking the credits that you have already done and transferring it into that next degree. >> getting a higher degree. >> give us an example of a >> anything in the healthcare field as far as like you could have an associate's in physical thank assistant or associate's in massage therapy. you could level up to a bachelor's in healthcare management. >> gotcha. >> which is exactly what you did. so let's talk a little bit about your story jonathan. you are currently a nursing student right? you already are a graduate with a diploma in massage therapy as well as an associate's in healthcare management. acquiring degrees right? no. >> i'm leveling up. [laughter] >> how does this work for you why did you make the decision to keep going? >> i fou