and what chrystal was doing was following that guidance. now, admittedly, there's agreement that the goal i narrow. the goal is to deny a qaeda from coming back. but the strategy thatwas articulated by thehite house after an interagency strategy review earli thi year was to haveomprehensive unterinsurgency effort. now that, of cours, as we hear from the presidt, from national security advisorones and others is being subjecto a new round examination and questionin >> ros the president has en involvedn health care reform and it's crial to how he believe... what he believes he has to do, whichis the right thinto do, is to change health re and he knowshat part of his n administration is on the line there. i'm surprised this that there's been onl two meetings about assessing the strategy recommended by general chrystal according to you, right? >> in fact, on meeting at least as recently as this weeke. so there'sn a lot of consteation here on the part of the military sang, you know you've had thi assessment now for many ds, why aret there more me

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i think probably what will happen is that geral chrystal will present a report questioning requesting troops and putting the risksssociated with eh. if we send in 40,0, we may have success but too print a foot prinlt. 20,000, we can help otect the people but not asig a foot prinlt. when they weighing that it leaves the some cover. >> and i think this is an issue that bloods into all these issues we' talking abo. the liberal who dominate ithe housand in the president's party, they feel like they've been compromising al along. andf there a pce where they feel like they're about to aw the line, you're pking up at could be in afghanistan. gwen:e saw this week, nancy pesi sent out a stern, there must be a public option letter. and thene saw the congressional black caucus and thprogressive cawg cuss saying the same thing. doesn't sound like the berals are going toet the president off the hook o any of th. >> in the white house ty say th're going to ha the-- to buy the idea tha ifhere's not a plic option,hey have to not le the public be the enemy of t good and tha you can't run on health car

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and he dismissedeports that chrystal might quit, if he does not get what he wan. >> i dealt wh yesterday pade of e-mails and calls from reporters saying, "oh, i he general mcrystal is going to resig" just absurd, absolutely ridiculous. nd anybody who knows stan mcchrystaknows as much. and they suldn't even bother asking the question lehrer: later, the head of t u.s. central command-- general david petraeus said he endorsed the assesent that mo troops are needed. but esident obama is now considerinalternative stregies on the afghan war, including one offered byice president biden. a report in today'snew york times" said mr. bidenroposed cutting u.s. troopumbers in afghanistan. the focus wouldhift to hitting al-qaeda cells, mainly n pakian. in honduras, officials rerted the first fality in continuing claes between police and supporters of the ousd esident. manuel zalayah rurned from exile on monday, a has been camped inside the brazian embassy. riot police lined t streets outside the embassy today enrcing a curfew. violent clashes broke o last night, a police used tear gas break up the cro

. >> holman: genal stanley chrystal delivered his6-page asssment at the end of august.ay came confirmation he wou seekore troops. e "washington post" was firs to obtain mcchryal's assessment. in it, he said the overallar effort is deteorating. he said the s. risks an outco where defeating e insurgency is no longer possible, less it regains the momentum witn 12 months. and he went on to warn: the general alsoepeated his prevus calls for focusing u.s. strategy on reducingfghan civilian cualties. pentag officials confirmed the details without formly releasing threport. and at thehite house, it was unclear what rponse mcchrystal will get. on the sunday ta shows, before the genel's assessment was published, preside obama said he's skeptical about senng more troops, f now. >> i'm not interested just being in afghanistan forhe sake of ing in afghanistan or saving face or, inome way, you know, sending a message th america is here r the duration. i think it's impornt that we tch strategy to resources. what i'm not also ing to do, though, to put the resource questi before the str