and matthew bishop, and chrystia freeland, i am pleased to have all of them on this program.i begin with david leonhardt. so what did you think of the president's speech? >> it was-- this is a classic obama speech. i mean, this is a statement of his economic values, and it's no-- it's no accident that he did it where he did it. people in obama world, including the president himself, think of his knoxx college speech from 2005 as a totemic expression of what he believes in in. so there wasn't a huge amount of what was new here. if you want to get a sense of what he believes should happen and has happened and is happening this is about as good a summation as you can get. >> rose: tell me what this president believe. >> he's deeply worried about inequality and he has been from the very beginning. when i interviewed him on a campaign plane in the midst of his bitter fight with hillary he said what i worry about is we have an economic expansion here that isn't reaching everyone. it's not sustainable and it's not helping everyone. that's before the crisis took hold and the middle c