chuck: call me chuck. lemonis: chuck, nice to meet you. -chuck: pleasure to meet you.charlie: charlie. lemonis: okay, so you guys are brother and sister. -mary ellen: yes. -lemonis: is this your dad? -charlie: correct. -chuck: c.e.o., designer. charlie: when i go home, at the dinner table, he's my old man. he's my dad. i love him to death. in business, it's chuck because i'm going to get a little emotional. lemonis: and who's in charge? charlie: i kind of run the show. mary ellen: i mean, the loudest person usually does. lemonis: the loudest person. charlie: i think everyone can agree. -mary lou: no. -mary ellen: [ scoffs ] charlie: everyone comes to me. i'm the one person that you all communicate to. lemonis: and whose name's on the door? -chuck: oh, my name. -lemonis: okay. just wanted to clarify that. it doesn't say, "swim by charlie handy." chuck: no. lemonis: do you have a business card? charlie: yes. lemonis: vice president, that's you. and then... mary ellen: fit, tech production, and sometimes sales at the trade shows. -lemonis: how about yourself? -mary lou: i

i'm chuck todd. the number of dead in new york state, the epicenter of the coronavirus crisis is yet at another new high. governor andrew cuomo says 799 people have died in the last 24 hours from the virus bringing the total to more than 7,000 deaths just in new york state alone. the governor said he's bringing in an additional funeral directors to handle the remains. across the united states, more than 432,000 americans have tested positive. more than 15,000 people have died. we still haven't tested 1% of the population overall yet, by the way. and as we learn more about the devastating health impacts we're also getting new figures about the economic devastation. another staggering number of americans applied for unemployment benefits last week. another 6.6 million people filed claims adding to the 10 million who filed over the previous two weeks. this is three weeks in a row we've had an all-time high in this. that means roughly 1 in 10 workers lost their jobs so far during this outbreak. there cou

>> you know, chuck, i think it's difficult. i think it's difficult to sue any government official for what we might call general policy decisions. it's not impossible, but if you get into it, if people think about how hard it is, for example, for people to win lawsuits against police, that's partly because we, as a society, have entrusted government officials and police to do more. so it is hard to win those kind of suits, chuck. >> all right, ari. the moment of truth, at least today's moment of truth is here. thank you, sir. and as i just interrupted ari there. the white house coronavirus briefing is about to begin. as we said at the top of the show. yesterday's briefing was quite tense and combative as the president defended his handling of the coronavirus. we may have more of that, especially some governors pushing back on the president's declaration over who has total authority when it comes to reopening the president. we also have a lot of questions about the plans to reopen as the president is expected to create an adviso

chuck? >> we have to remember, we have a generation of government letting down the public, whether it's on wmd, the great recession, or this. so skepticism at government, you have to understand why it's out there. it's out there on the left and the right. and it's going to on up even during pandemics. it is something, we have to remember the climate of the last generation and why that has probably complicated the ability of some people to trust certain elected officials. let's move to new zealand, katy, where the prime minister has announced the government has stopped community transmission of the coronavirus. she says, we have won that battle, but we must remain vigilant if we are to keep it that way. there have been more than 1,400 cases and at least 19 deaths in new zealand due to the coronavirus. sara james joins me now from melbourne, australia. but both australia and new zealand have been sort of cooperating. and even though, ideologically, you couldn't have more ideologically opposite

i'm chuck todd. here are the facts as we know them at this hour. >>> senior adviser to the president jared kushner called the federal response to the coronavirus, quote, a great success story. kushner said the government is on other side of the medically aspect of this crisis and the united states has a way to go, especially when it comes to testing. >>> governor andrew cuomo again called for additional federal funding for the state of new york and called the fight in washington a bailout. he criticized republicans and he said they are playing politics with people's lives. >>> florida governor ron desantis has a plan to reopen his state. the state announced its highest one-day death toll yet. at least 83 floridians lost their lives to covid-19 on tuesday alone. this is an nbc news analysis finds that no state has has opted to reopen has technical met the 14-day decline in new cases that the federal government guidelines call for before reopening. of course, as we know, they are guidelines, not mandat

we know, chuck, that no test is 100% perfect. but what we don't want are widely inaccurate tests because as i said before, that's going to be much worse having wildly inaccurate tests than having no tests. >> i want to go back to reopening. i know that you guys, the medical experts on the task force are being confronted by the economic folks, and i get that. what do you feel has been the balance between economic pressure and medical advice on the task force? >> i think we have had really good and vigorous debates. since i have been on the task force, all the doctors are very free to express their opinion. the doctors debate issues. we exchange issues. we all bring information to the table. one thing, chuck, that's been really helpful is our interactions with people on the front lines. i consult colleagues on the front lines all the time. bringing that information back to the task force and discussing what's happening on the front lines and also the data associated with infections and other things has been very helpful to provide

chuck? >> it is. many of these tight-knit communities are a little skeptical of government, maybe for reasons that are understandable in different parts of it and sometimes they don't always want to listen to public officials. ron allen in brooklyn for us. thank very much. >>> what's going on with health care professionals right now who are feeling overwhelmed in the new york hospitals? i'm joined by dr. stephan flores. a doctor at new york presbyterian, columbia university medical center. the question i have is we knew this week was going to have these sort of split-screen horrendous news, death toll goes up, but green chutes of hospitalizations are down, ventilator use is down. what are you seeing on the front lines, dr. flores? >> i think we have to look at everything and i stated there are optimistic numbers. looking at patients being discharged. you have to interpret all that data with caution. we are probably about a week from dealing with the peak. the fatalities will continue to rise. caution

>> well, chuck, thanks for having me on.and it really is remarkable to think about the progress the american people have made over the last several months. when the president tapped me to lead the white house coronavirus task force, he gave us the first objective is to save lives. and to focus on slowing the spread, bending the curve. and because of the extraordinary efforts of the american people, we continue to see every day evidence that cases are declining, hospitalizations are declining. that's a tribute to the american people. frankly, it's a tribute to all of those governors, governors in both parties across the country who put these mitigation efforts into effect. secondly, the president made it clear to us that we were to make sure that hospitals in impacted areas had the resources and equipment that they needed to be able to save as many lives as possible. and i have to tell you, the tens of millions of personal protective equipment that we have coordinated for delivery around the country, especially in areas most

>> it's tragic all the way around, chuck. in addition to that, what you were reporting there is we believe there may be 70 more residents who are infected with the virus and as many as 40 staff as well. there's been a lot of activity happening and right over here, police are gathering. they're about to make some kind of announcement. a local congressman has been demanding that fema, the national guard come in here to do something about this place. the owner has been not cooperating. hasn't been returning phone calls, not even to local officials we talked to. he released a statement saying that the backlog in the mortuary was due to the holiday weekend. and the accelerated high number of deaths, unusually high number of deaths in a short period of time. the statement sounded like he was trying to reassure the public and families who are terrified by this who have loved ones here that the situation is under control, but what we're hearing from others who are watching out here are they're not satisfied by any of that. it's -- th

>> absolutely, chuck.ean, right now we're saying social distancing has to be in parallel with more icu beds and more testing. the reason we're saying more icu beds with relaxing social distancing is we don't really know what to expect. we're hopeful, but if we're wrong on the models, more people will have to come see me and my colleagues in the icu. but if we have a therapy, that is an off load. that depressure eyeses the system. that's a panacea. potentially a magic bullet where you don't need as much in critical care capacity. it would be revolutionary and very important. yes, absolutely. it should impact those considerations if the data bears itself out. >> how hard is it for the -- at this point, does anybody with a severe case of this virus have an opportunity to get on this drug? >> so the data published in the new england journal and that we know right now, that's compassionate use basis. that's a doctor like me and my colleagues going i want my patient to get this drug. in most cases, if a hospital

he said the cows are already out of the barn, chuck. tyson should have taken stronger measures in his mind several weeks ago when they had a chance too limit the spread. now he says officials are really left to play catch-up, and it has a serious implication for our nation's food supply. chuck? >> morgan, i just want to double check something. you said you read it from the statement. tyson is only now deciding to start testing? i just -- beginning april 22nd, after what we saw what happened to smithfield in sioux falls. today they announced they're going to start testing their employees? that is remarkable. >> reporter: that's what we're urn. the governor is saying they're hopeful to do that on friday. important to note here, iowa responsible for one third of our country's pork production. this one particular plant, a major player in that, and the concern from a standpoint there is the governor is saying that should this shut down for a long period of time places at the grocery store could be going up due to a shortage of product. the b

>> i think it's all of the above, chuck, honest. think the good news feels like is feels like innovation is bursting at the edges and please, god, some of that hits and hits quickly. a lot of good work, for instance, going on on at our state university rutgers. i think it's both physical material that we are light on as a nation. it's the personal protective equipment that somebody needs to have on them to protect them as they are taking the test. and it's health care workers. you know? we are a constant struggle. we have expanded testing as dramically as any american state and, yet, we are not remotely near a universal testing reality. we have constant struggle between health care workers we can put toward testing and those that we need to put forward clearly toward increasingly the past number of weeks toward health care. so i think it's a combination of all of the above, frankly. >> look. i have not met an elected leader that is setting a deadline. the public has to understand what is realistic. what is realistic in the next thre

chuck? >> yeah, well, morgan, i really hope actually they don't get drowned in data and instead start doing some action, because sadly, none of this is new information. all of this is stuff we've learned in the past. any time we've had these things that, you know, communities who lack health care access are going to have worse outcomes on health crises and things like that. morgan chesky, great reporting down there in new orleans. let me move over to you in atlanta. we just highlighted louisiana, where we were getting decent data on this and it is one of the reasons why i think this story is surfacing now around the country is because louisiana has been reporting. we're not getting that kind of reporting out of georgia. it seems we're a little blind as to whether there are disparities in georgia. >> reporter: you know, chuck, of the doctors that i've been talking to over the better part of two days, doctors from around the country who are on the front lines, specifically serving african-amer

i'm chuck todd. here are the facts at this hour. soon the house will begin voting on the latest phase of coronavirus relief stimulus. nearly $500 billion addendum bill which is expected to pass with bipartisan support. it's basically a topper, if you will, to that $2.2 trillion initial rescue bill. new york governor andrew cuomo called senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, quote, incredibly shortsighted today claiming the kentucky republican and senate majority leader opposes future relief funding for new york because it is simply a state that votes for democrats. senator elizabeth warren has confirmed her eldest brother don reed has died of coronavirus. warren says she is, quote, grateful to the nurses and frontline staff who took care of him, but it's hard to know that there was no family to hold his hand or to say "i love you" one more time. >>> today the department of labor announced that 4.4 additional americans filed for unemployment claims last week. yet another record-breaking number. that brings a five-week total now to o

chuck, over to you. >> thank you, katy.ndemic, this has been an mri for our societal problems. we talked about that one for some time. and now it is surfaced in front of us and n. way that's we now have to solve it. in our next hour, we'll speak with andrew cuomo. he's got a big contact tracing program he is unveiling and we'll be talking to him about the details of that as well as how to make public transportation safe to travel on. you're watching msnbc. to travel on you're watching nbmsc. state farm is announcing the good neighbor relief program we're returning $2 billion dollars to our auto policyholders through may 31st. because now, more than ever, being a good neighbor means everything. like a good neighbor, state farm is there. swithout even on yoleaving your house. being a good neighbor means everything. just keep your phone and switch to xfinity mobile. you can get it by ordering a free sim card online. once you activate, you'll only have to pay for the data you need- starting at just $12 a month. there are no ter

chuck?> and that's under perfect conditions, that's under no renewed hot spots after you sort of let things go. >> reporter: yes. >> i want to come back to testing. so there's no guidelines how much of the population to test? there's no guidelines on whether you need to be doing contact tracing? are they simply saying the states have to do this? they need to monitor it? but the federal government isn't requiring a metric? >> reporter: that's my reading of these 18 slides. there is something on contact tracing saying that part of the gaetding criteria is contact tracing in place but there isn't anything about broad testing. let me read the section of robust testing programs in place, this is directed for the hospitals, for at-risk health care workers including emerging antibody testing so that's the sirology test to see if you had it. so that is the main part i flip through here on the 18 pages. got this a couple of minutes ago. doesn't appear to have anything on the broader testing. i don't

chuck, there's a protest here today. the governor is about to have another news conference in a few moments behind me. now there are a number of protesters that have shown up, a couple hundred, maybe 300 protesters so far, many of them carrying american flags. a lot of them carrying trump 2020 paraphernalia, wearing "make america great again" hats. they're demanding governthe gov reopen the economy, the cure cannot be worse than the disease. i caught up with a woman a little while ago and asked why she was here. she works at a bar in the beach. in the shore town, the beach season is the big draw, it's what fuels the economy. she wants to get back to work. when i asked her if she trusts what the president is saying in terms of reopening the economy, she says she doesn't trust d. anthony fauci. she believes everybody has an agenda. she went after the media. she said she believes dr. fauci will only have a job for a short period of time. what i'm hearing is more along the lines of what i heard from trump rallies back in 201

so let's start with the basics, chuck. we're doing about a hundred to 130,000 tests a day in the united states. all of the estimates, and by that i mean all the estimates, the minimum is 500,000 a day. that estimate comes from harvard and morgan stanley says we need 500,000. some other people i think at hopkins say 750,000 a day. i put the number closer to a million. a lot of that variability is depending which populations you think should get priority. whatever it is, it's at least four times what we're doing now. we need at least four times the number of tests we're doing now. this idea we don't need more tests, wrong. we need a lot more tests going forward. because if you're going to ease up the economy just imagine. you want to be sure whether all the workers at a site are negative. you're going to want to be sure if someone gets it that all of their people who they come in contact with are negative. the idea that we're fain is simply false and if the president opens up the economy or urges states to without adequate t

chuck? >> kristen, thank you. time he steps out of the white house, out of washington to arizona. actually, he did norfolk as well. >> that's true. >> i want to let folks know we had a technical issue that kept us from being able to bring you a segment that we had promoted throughout the show about mental health concerns of frontline workers. obviously we had a technical issue or we would have made time for it. we are going to make that happen. we'll bring the guests back later this week. my promise. msnbc's breaking news coverage of the pandemic continues with my friend and colleague ari melber, right after this break. k i'm jo ann jenkins with aarp. the coronavirus continues to affect us all, and we are here, actively supporting you and your community. every day, we're providing trusted information from top health experts...sharing tools to help protect families from fraud... and creating resources to support family caregivers everywhere. as always, you can count on aarp to advocate for you and your family. join

>> they're getting closer, chuck, based on my conversations today. it appears as though white house officials have been in contact with democrats as well as obviously the republicans who are negotiating this. what democrats wanted was more money for hospitals and for state and local governments. it seems like the white house may be close to giving them some of that money for hospitals. have they reached the finish line on a deal? not necessarily, but i'm told that they're making real progress. and republicans had said to me a few days ago, chuck, that it was really going to be up to the house the break this stalemate. what could the president live with, what would he sign. so it appears as though they are reaching slowly some type of agreement on this. now what's the earliest they may be able to pass something? i am told potentially tuesday. now, will that happen again? it's not a done deal until it's a done deal. but it seems like there has been progress made on what is critical, this $250 billion fund that has run out that they're trying to repleni

chuck, here's the thing. the expectations from the models is that it's going to peak in georgia days from now. so if the guidance coming from washington is there needs to be 14 days of declining numbers of cases and there has to be widespread testing, people here are saying this isn'tprotest. there's a coronavirus task force here in georgia that's supposed to be working with the governor. six members said we had no idea that the governor announced nail s salons, parlors, gims weyms wer opening today. shannon was caught off guard. certainly mixed messaging within the confines of the groups here looking at this issue. >> all right. sam brock, very quickly, do we know, are we seeing people show up to these businesses? . >> yes. thomas it the name of -- tommy thomas is the name of the owner. first time they had to turn people away there were so many this morning. two doors down, chuck, a thet a salon, they're not opening at all. some people think it's a good idea to get going, others think it's a horrible idea. >

>> well, a couple of things, chuck.seems republicans in the administration are pushing to try to put more money in the small business fund right away. and without addressing any of these other concerns. the administration is going to ask for that formally this afternoon. but i can't get democrats in the senate or the house to say that mnuchin has even been in touch with them. they are so far keeping it very close to the vest as to whether they're going to go along with that or not. they'd have to for that to happen as soon as this week. and i think that's partly because they do want to think about this in these broader terms. it's widely acknowledged, congress is going to have to do more as this crisis continues. but there are some stumbling blocks. and right now, even getting that first round of checks out the door has been a real logistical nightmare. americans haven't seen it yet. so i've been listening to the president. he's mentioned he did on sunday night and again. he talked about the next round and wants to do i

chuck?> ron allen in -- on the campus there of stonybrook where they are setting up a field hospital. ron, thanks very much. peter, the president was awfully busy today on twitter, let alone having some meetings at the white house. but it looks like there's? some deflection going on here. i want to highlight tweet number one about the w.h.o. here's what he writes. "the w.h.o. really blew it. for some reason funded largely by the united states yet re china centric. we'll be giving that i good look. fortunately i rejected our advice on keeping our borders open to china early on. why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?" it's not lost on me that this tweet happens on the day news is out that his own chief trade adviser peter navarro wrote a memo in late january saying this pandemic is coming. >> yeah, you're right, chuck. the president is one to always deflect and place blame elsewhere. and certainly on this day that's what he's trying to do with that tweet there attacking the world h

i'm chuck todd.ultiple sources have confirmed that president trump recently did lash out to his campaign manager after being briefed on a bunch of internal polling that showed him losing to joe biden in multiple key states. this comes as the virus's death toll crosses 60 thousands. it comes as americans are losing their jobs at a pace not seen since the great depression. 30 million americans have filed for unemployment benefits. and we reported 27,000 new cases and more than 2,100 new deaths. president trump said i don't believe the polls. and we've heard him say that he doesn't accept responsibility at all but he does seem desperate to find a way to turn the page in any way he can. he's been bringing in governors. he met with new jersey's democratic governor phil murphy today. we'll speak with him later in the show. the president is also dialing back public briefings with health officials after those around him said that they weren't helping him politically. he's been pushing scientists to develop a

that was all because speaker pelosi and chuck schumer held it up. republicans are trying to get work done. they're trying to get things accomplished. we're trying to fund things. we're getting stonewalled. very difficult in the house to get public policy done when we can't even go up to washington to meet. elizabeth: early, earlier this month the republicans said we need money for ppe. nancy pelosi went on tell investigation to tout and talk about her ice cream collection. let's move on to this story. the administration is now working at an unprecedented way. if you talk to medical experts talk to anybody in epidemiology, they have never seen a public/private partnership like this. working with companies like walmart, cvs, rite aid, to do thousands and thousands of testing of individuals. we're talking on a level, they're pushing to do, nearly six million people tested. looking for way more than that. the u.s. is now testing more per capita than any other country bar i think italy and spain this is based on new data. we're bigger country than that.

no, chuck. i can't believe. >> i'm shocked. gambling. i guess the question is, what is the better way to convince some of these conservatives that new york's budget is new york's budget, florida's budget is florida's budget? >> first of all, it wasn't just senator mcconnell. i can't believe you would say such an obnoxious comment in public just to negotiate in washington some back room deal. save that garbage for the back room deal, right, chuck? he doubled down on it. he said states should go bankrupt and this will be a blue state bailout. and senator scott from florida said the same thing. why should we bail out these democrats? right? like it's only democrats that get coronavirus. partisanship is toxic and poison. they can't say we're funding corporate america but working americans they're on their own. they can't say it. >> or they can say it. they won't get away with it. >> right. >> sorry to interrupt you guys. governor cuomo, i have a question about the supply chain. there is already talk about meat being limited in the grocery ma

hi, chuck. as always, thanks for joining us this morning. chuck, for the first time the trump administration acknowledged staggering numbers saying 100,000 people could die from the coronavirus and warning that this coming week could be the toughest week. how do you think the federal government has handled this response? >> well, look, it feels as if every decision made has been about a week after the experts have asked that decision to be made. it does playing catch-up. whether it's on guidelines on how to do social distancing or wearing a mask or in the procurement of supplies that are necessary. i do think we have another divide that's happening that is more philosophical and is a big divide between the two parties, this idea of should it be the central federal government that's running point here or should it be each individual governor that runs point. and it's clear the president thinks the federal government shouldroll, a federalist point of view, in a very conservative point of view how our government works, but i think there's a lot

chuck. >> exactly. i want to get at the piece of news that was made there on the fda side of things. dr. bhadelia, from what you heard from dr. hahn, they're obviously speeding up some of this regulation to try to get some of the therapeutics on to the market. should we have any concern about cutting this red tape? especially on day when the fda had to put the brakes essentially on hydroxychloroquine? >> so, chuck, i think the issue of sort of the fda shortcuts applies to the test more so than therapeutics you. actually have to go through the randomized control trials to really get an idea about the efficacy of the drug. the issue with the test is you can have a test that looks really great in the laboratory. it looks really great in taking samples of stock viruss or samples from patients that were donated to sort of test in those. but when you actually take a that's it has fda emergency use authorization and do a real life test drive, you try it out in patients, there is a ton of issues that come up wi

i'm out. >> appreciate it chuck todd. nbc's chuck todd. i'm ari melber. let me tell you what we're going to do. msnbc broadcast part of the white house coronavirus briefing. we have our experts lined up to go through it. in a few moments we have a special fact check prepared. some of what the president was said was false and we want you to have the facts as part of the coverage. one headline, president trump blaming the world health organization for its response to this pandemic and announcing he's using his authority to halt funding to the organization, arguing they were china-centric and took china's word on the virus in the early stages. the president, of course, has ignored his own recent activities which is to say how he downplayed the virus, watt he's accusing the w.h.o. of. he did even worse. we have the public evidence of that. president trump saying he does want to move forward to reopening the economy. the plans are being finalized, but he wants to basically, the president, let each governor make their own calls for what is appropriate. of cours

this is a state, chuck, there's no talk about reopening. the governor here is saying they don't expect to hit of the peak for another week or so. he's talking about reopening maybe june or july, sometime in the summer which is way out there. because here they feel they haven't gotten the tests -- haven't gotten the equipment that they need for the last couple of months and they hope they get it in the coming weeks and months. now this drive-through center behind me opened today. it's a different kind of test. you drive up, a health care worker gives you a vial or a cup. you put saliva into the cup, you seal it up, hand it back and you get the results in 24 to 48 hours. it's a less invasive process. i've talked to people who will say when they've been swabbed it can be painful because the device goes very far into your nostrils. here's, the health care worker is more protected because they don't have to reach far into the car and less contact or opportunity for somebody to perhaps sneeze on you. it's safer and requires less ppe. researchers

coming up, senator chuck astley from iowa on a plan to get chuck grassley from iowa on the plan to supportew spending bill in the senate. ons is "balance of power" bloomberg television and radio. ♪ david: this is "balance of power" on bloomberg television and radio. or bloomberg first word news, we go to mark crumpton. mark: americans will soon be able to test themselves for covid-19 at home. the fda has approved the first home testing kit. officials say it is just as accurate as the one you get at the hospital or doctor's office. patients will take samples and send them to labcorp for testing. president trump will meet at the white house today with new york's governor andrew cuomo. the two halves are in recent weeks and will talk about ways to step up virus testing. governor cuomo says testing is a key to lifting restrictions and reopening his state's economy. the governor and other state leaders want $500 billion in aid to help with outbreak related revenue shortfalls. britain's parliament went back to work today and the authorities had a message for lawmakers. stay away. lawmakers and p

chuck, as always, thanks for joining us. we appreciate your insight and hope you tune in to chuck for this morning's "meet the press." he'll be an interview with dr. deborah birx and with new jersey governor phil murphy and an interview with former georgia house minority leader stacy abrams. it's at 8:00 a.m. right after this newscast. >>> coming up in about 30 minutes from now we will talk to nbc bay area political analyst larry gerston for our weekly segment. we'll look at the leadership of our governor gavin newsom during this pandemic. >>> now to america's meat supply. it is on the brink of a shortage. the number of meat plants across the nation remain shut as the pandemic continues and a shortage of pork, chicken and beef could happen soon. in fact, processing rates are down by 25%. but a shortage might not last long. one expert puts it in perspective for us. >> what it means to consumers is there may be temporary stockouts at the grocery store, but you may not find your favorite pork or your favorite cut of beef at the

it is "meet the press daily" and good evening i am chuck todd continuing msnbc's breaking news coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. we are of course standing by for today's coronavirus task force briefing at the white house which comes as this administration is dealing with one of the greatest government failures of our life times. it was just a little over a month ago that the president was largely dismissive of concerns about the coronavirus, even suggesting it was a hoax designed to undermine the presidency. then came the massive testing blunders, local and state officials calling on the federal government for help. front line medical workers pleading for protective equipment. now the president is warning up to 240,000 americans will die even in a rosie scenario where everyone stays home as much as possible through the end of april. today vice president pence said that the united states is on the same path as italy. that's not good news. they've been ravaged while this disease while being totally locked down for four weeks and counting now. the number of cases in the united states t

but chuck didn't know that. okay, jeff? >> mr. president, you tweeted this morning about your call with saudi arabia, mbs. we have some people say that the figures that you cited between 10 million and 15 million barrels per day is not what they're agreeing to. can you be more specific -- >> i don't know what they're agreeing to. i think they might have agreed to more than that. >> did they tell you, that sir? >> yeah. he did say that, actually. russia talked about 10 million barrels. russia and saudi arabia are fighting over this, as everybody knows. it's really killing an industry. hurting russia badly, hurting saudi arabia badly. i said this is an easy one. should it be an easy one. and it may be 10 and it may be more than that. i was actually told it may be 10, as i told somebody before. it may be 10 and it may be more than that. maybe it's 15. maybe it goes up to 15. it could be as high as 15. and, you know, there is a tremendous oversupply right now. that industry, it was oversupplied before the virus. and when the virus cam

but speaker pelosi and chuck schumer said no. >> bill: okay, so speaker pelosi said the following in part. she is looking for help for the under banked small businesses and others struggling to access ppe. looking for a desperate state local government money at hospitals on the front line of the epidemic. your response on that? >> she's just not being truthful because what she requested was to make it more burdensome for small businesses. right now, it's only two pages to apply. she now wants more data on you before you can apply so she makes it harder on a small business. is a one page bill to move forward, but she said no. hospitals, we just moved out $30 billion to hospitals and we have another 70 sitting there. there is no other fund that is out of money except small business. she is the only thing holding it up. in she sent an individual to the floor in the senate to object. had they not objected, this would have passed unanimous consent. the democrats are objecting. just as she held up the cares act for that one week to put in more money for the kennedy center and wanted to cha

chuck? >> well, gadi schwartz, absolutely. thank you very much.his is the biggest failure of the federal government using this time wisely to ramp up the ability to test. as deborah birx was caught on tape saying yesterday in a conference call with governors, it's -- we're millions of tests behind where she thought we would be. only 200,000 conducted in state labs when she thought 3 million conducted over a certain period of time. that's a wasted amount of time for us being locked in. speaking to the white house response to the coronavirus, president trump met with recovered covid-19 patients just a short time ago. we're about four hours from the next coronavirus task force briefing. after the president used yesterday to play a campaign-style video trying to defend his response to the virus and picked a fight with the nation's governors over who is in charge of ochi iopening the country. governors in the northeast and west opened up pacts. tell the democrat governors that mutiny on the bountsy was one of my all-time favorite movies. a good old-fas

>> there is no play book for any of this chuck. it has not happened and that there is no playbook for reopening, how do you invite masses of people into dark confined smokey space that's is the life blood of this state and think think that the sentiment from people is conflict and we have been speaking to several business orders and they know what it means, they understand why it is important, they're looks at the science. but at the same time their businesses are collapsing and it has been going on for long. someone that manages around 11 properties, all businesses on one block, she says one of them is up and running and she is worried act any of them coming back. it is a real, real conflict on the ground. >> no doubt, steve patterson in las vegas, before that blaine alexander. i want to turn to a couple doctors now. get a look at how doctors outside of big cities are handling this pandemic, we want to bring in the chief of staff in decatur. let me start, first, on a grand national scale. i'm wondering if you're concerned with the

thank you, chuck. >> all right. thank you, sir. >> joining me now are two governors who have taken different steps in the face of the coronavirus pandemic. it's governor jay inslee of washington state, the first state to be hit hard, and asa hutchinson, one of the few governors who has not issued a stay-at-home order. governor hutchinson, i want to start with you. you heard the surgeon general there. he's pleading, give him a week. he would prefer for all 30 days of this months. your response to the surgeon general? >> great comments by the surgeon general. in arkansas, we're doing everything that the surgeon general has outlined plus more. for example, i applaud the recommendations on masks. yesterday, we issued guidelines that if you go out, social distance, first of all, but lais bring a mask with you in case you get in environments where you cannot have that six-feet spread. in arkansas, we have a targeted approach that is very strict. we have closed bars, restaurants, schools, some of our park lodges. we're emp

we built it that way from the beginning. >> this is the new world, chuck. are we all going to decide it's not so bad to be at home >> well, i think we've all discovered that we can be much more productive in this environment than we probably thought we could it is -- i spoke to a c.e.o. of a large investment bank who said, if you had told me 90 days ago that 95% of my people would be working from home and we'd be productive and running the firm the way we are, i wouldn't have believed it, but we are. so i think longer term it's going to change how we think about work and it will have a profound impact on how we think about our employees, their productivity, our buildings, our campuses, our commercial real estate and we'll worry about that when we get through this crisis. >> chuck robbins, thank you for everything that you're doing to really rise to the occasion. and i'm so glad that business for webex is working out for you, sir keep it up >> thanks, jim thank you for your leadership on these important topics >> thank you, chuck. much more "mad money" ahead

>> well, first, i want to say hi, chuck. i will say the president, it's his responsibility, of course, has the right to enact his deepest act. but here, when we take a look at some of the data, and the data suggests close to 90% of those that have contracted the virus have some relationship to the plant. tyson provides a really sure food chain. so, we appreciate that. i'm not seeing this as an us verses them. because you can't be pro business without being pro public health. so, i am hoping we can see incredible resources from the cdc, from the idph, from all of the number of different places to make sure that we secure the health and safety of the people working at the plant. if you know anything about waterloo, we have a phenomenal work force that's resilient. the protection of our workers is absolutely important. >> what have you learned as you've had to track these cases so closely and realize 90% of the outbreak is based on the one plant. what have you learned about the conditions inside the facility that you think will

i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me, chuck. >> and joining me now is dr. michael osterholm, the director of the center for infectious disease research and policy at the university of minnesota. and i want to begin, dr. osterholm, with you to respond to something dr. birx said earlier on the show. she essentially seemed to imply that we can't ramp up testing as we know it and that the only way we're going to solve our testing problem is with essentially a breakthrough. is she right? is that throwing in the towel on testing too early? >> well, she's partially right, but let's be really clear. there are three major problems with testing right now. one, we don't have the reagents. our governor is not working with private sector companies as all the other governments of the world are seeking testing to best ramp up the reagents we do need. number two is we have the wild, wild west for testing. the fda has all but given up its oversight responsibility for tests we have on the market. many are nothing short of a disaster, and we got into that place because of had