chuck was. >> but they didn't arrest chuck. months went by. and the detective kept investigating him. authorities seized his computer, searched his car. all the while, chuck was saying they were looking at the wrong guy. >> there's a lot of people that won't confess to a murder for obvious reasons. at that point, he was a person of -- a strong person of interest, but i still didn't know if he was my killer, so we continued the search. >> the investigation dragged on. life for the students on campus began to go back to normal. but when police were called to the scene of one house party, it wasn't because of noise or underage drinking. another woman was in a fight for her life. >>> coming up -- a student at a party ends up a prisoner in a stranger's apartment. and then immediately he grabs me and starts choking me again. it neutralizes bacteria for a healthier mouth than even the leading multi-benefit toothpaste. crest. at mercedes-benz, nothing service will do.-class that's why we're expanding your range of choices. many dealers now offer optio

>> well, chuck, what we need is not one vaccine. the world actually needs multiple vaccines, because there are 7 billion people in the world, and we hope that the number of people who take the vaccine is greater than the 75% that dr. hotez mentioned, but still, we're talking about billions of people in the world that will need to be vaccinated. so, this is not a race to be first. this is a global cooperation in which multiple regions of the world and multiple companies need to work together to develop vaccines for a very, very large number of people. >> all right. dan barouch from boston, peter hotez in harvard -- and peter hotez from baylor, with us from houston. thank you both for sharing your expertise with our viewers. much appreciate it. have a safe memorial day weekend. >>> joining me now is the republican governor of ohio, mike dewine. governor, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning, chuck. >> i want to start with -- look, this memorial day weekend, one of the top places to go normally in your state would be cedar

chuck? >> yeah.e this is something that could very much, it's an election year, this could become a political hot potato in georgia as well. it's -- it's -- this is just very disturbing. this is something i have a feeling that we're going to be reading and reporting a lot about anyway. kate snow, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> katy, over to you. >>> chuck, going back to what we were talking about a little earlier, driving vacations. say you're right about that. and those go up. what is it going to be like when you get to your location and you want to stay at a hotel? what is that stay going to be like? we'll have more on that next. >>> we'll also speak with a wedding planner here in hudson valley. what are weddings going to look like in the future? stay with us. n the future stay with us challenging it is right now. whether you're facing unemployment. have bills to pay. or just trying to keep your family healthy. it's hard. but when it comes to your pfizer medicines, we want to make things a

chuck? >> shaq brewster, thank you very much.'m joined now on the phone -- as i said, we have a few technical issues here, by the minneapolis mayor jacob frey. mayor, i'm sorry, i said your first name as somebody with two first names. i get that quite a bit myself. my apologies for that. mr. mayor,ing you said this is really obviously very painful for you watching this. i know your campaign, you talk about this issue of excessive force and you didn't want to see a militarized police force. now you're mayor and this has happened on your watch. what do you think you need to do about it? >> first we need to be honest, and call a spade a spade. when we see our white officer place his knee on the neck of an unarmed, handcuffed man for five whole minutes, and you watch community that is clearly stating let him go. he's no threat to anyone. you hear -- you hear george himself explaining that he's experiencing all sorts of health considerations and he's worried for his own life, and there was every single decision to lift the knee from h

chuck, i have no idea when cedar point will be able to open. our kids and grandkids love to go there. we would love to go there, but we're certainly not there yet. you know, if you look at our data, our replication rate is 1-1. we are now reopening. we've got to see how this reopening is going. reports i get back is it's going well. our restaurants are doing what they need to do, keeping the space. so, retail is doing the same thing. but we're not there yet as far as, you know, mass gatherings of people. >> do you have a metric where you'll pull the emergency brake in your mind? and is that a metric you're willing to share with the public? i mean, i'm thinking about the next three weeks. we're going to find out how memorial day weekend went, probably around father's day weekend. >> well, chuck, the thing i keep talking to the people of the state of ohio is -- and by the way, they did a great job for two months keeping the distance. now we're at a different phase as we open up. and so, not only do we have to wash our hands, keep a distance, but

chuck? >> a powerful one. i saw somebody said forget essential, treated sacrificial. that's a powerful change of words. this is why this is an mri for our country's soul. morgan radford, thanks very much. katy, back to you. >> it is infuriating. chuck, before dawn today, the normally around the clock new york city subway system went still. in the first planned shutdown in 115 years. the metropolitan transit authority is closing the system overnight to disinfect cars and stations. concerns have been growing about safety of the subway as thousands of the homeless sought shelter on cars during the pandemic. the subway shutdown is part of an historic undertaking to ensure safety of the trains for passengers. joining us, chairman and ceo of the metropolitan transit authority, pat foy. it is great to have you on. this disinfecting that's going to go on in the overnight hours, how many people will it effect in their abilities to get to work? >> thanks for having me. first time in 115 year history o

i think the point i want to come back to, though, chuck. this virus is going to keep transmitting whether or not whatever we do. we can nibble it at the edges, in some cases like new york and other cities did. you can surely shave off the top of the peak, but let's remember, this virus is on its own. in 1918, when influenza virus occurred, we had big peaks in the spring in several selected cities in the country and it went away for four months and came back with a vengeance. i worry right now more than anything if the virus suddenly starts to disappear because in fact what that may tell us is we are going to act like an influenza pandemic and come late summer, early fall, we could have a peak that made everything else we have done so far look mild. contact tracing is important, but it won't stop that. what are the different scenarios that are going to get us from 5% to 15% of the u.s. population as has currently been populated to 60% or 70%. we don't have a plan for that. that's what we need a plan for. >> what is the likelihood, michael os

craig, i hand the baton to you. >> hey, chuck. thank you so much. chuck, stand by if you can.i think we've got the vice president ready for us in wilmington. >> you do. i can hear you, craig. thank you. >> good evening to you. thank you so much for your time, sir. let's just start with the news of the day. of course as you know, the officer who had his knee on george floyd's neck for almost nine minutes charged with third-degree murder, charged with manslaughter, of floyd's family, indicating that they would have preferred a first-degree murder charge. do you think that justice has been served? >> well, it is not finished yet. we'll see what happens. look, i'm not going to make -- the fact that he was charged with murder and was charged with manslaughter as well as a minimum of what should have been done. nine minutes on that man's neck when his face was up against the curb and being crushed is totally, totally inappropriate under any circumstances. and it is brutality. >> president trump indicated a short time ago that the administration at least had spoken with george floyd'

chuck? for us. steve, thanks very much. katy, over to you. >> still so weird to see vegas as a ghost town. >>> chuck, let's go overseas to italy. once the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in europe, now it's slowly reopening after lifting some restrictions this week. shops, restaurants and churches are now reopen again. what is life like in italy right now? joining us with the latest from rome is msnbc foreign correspondent matt bradley. matt, how does it feel to be in italy now that things are getting back to something of normal? >> absolutely wonderful. i was walking around today. a lot of people around walking around on the streets of rome which, as you know, we've been here for now more than ten weeks. it was totally locked down. barely a soul on the streets. now everything is not back to normal -- >> you can see matt's face. >> there were people -- i'm not wearing a mask. i'm on my roof here, but, you know, people are wearing masks when walking around on the streets. they seem to b

chuck?shaquille brewster, definitely hard to watch. especially when you watch it in full and see the people who crowded around and were begging the officers to get off his neck and they were ignored. i said ten-minute video. it was a seven-minute video as you corrected me. and it's just infuriating. shaq brewster -- >> ten-minute video, but the officer was on his neck for about seven minutes. >> good clarification. shaq, thank you very much. chuck, it's -- there aren't any words when you look at video like that. it's just hard to understand how somebody can die lying there underneath an officer as he is handcuffed with a knee on a neck. it's beyond words. >> you know, five years ago when -- after ferguson and after trayvon martin we were going to have this conversation as a country and talk about all these issues with policing and we were going to make these improvements here and there and i wonder how many people in america think that that was nothing but lip service when they see what's ha

as a reminder, chuck.is forced removal, i guess, the fda warned americans against the use of hydroxychloroquine for covid-19 outside a hospital or a clinical trial, noting basically the heaareart rhythm risk probl. he was demoted to a lesser job at the national institute of health. >> peter, i want to thank you, i know it's a piece of breaking news and you're in the middle of chasing it, so i totally get if this is sort of not fully cooked, but "the times" is reporting that there's some news that's leaking out of the task force that members are being told the task force itself may get disbanded. considering where we are in our death toll, our number of new cases, all of this, that seems to be an odd time to disband the white house coronavirus task force. how much truth is there to this or is this going to be moving from one task force to the jared kushner task force? >> well, for total transparency, we are still reporting this out, but according to one white house official at this time, we know that whethe

that's what i'm doing, chuck. my focus, yeah, i came here to kind of work on trade policy issues and somehow i became quarter master and supply clerk, but it's been a beautiful thing working with private industry to see how innovative the companies of america can be, and how the manufacturing platforms of this country f we just give them some lift, how they can really develop like the gm example i told you about earlier. >> i want to ask you quickly about the cdc and ask you whether the president has confidence in the cdc. it does seem as if the initial guidelines, they didn't want them put out. they put down very limited guidelines with more detailed ones coming later. cdc hasn't been able to give a briefing now in over a month. does the president have confidence in the cdc as our lead on this pandemic? >> well, i would say two things about that. first of all, you should ask the president that question, not me. but early on in this crisis, the cdc, which really had the most trusted brand around the world in this

it's not even a close call, chuck. >> chuck, how would you describe what bill barr is doing?re's been -- it does seem as if there's a methodical and systematic attempt here to delegitimi delegitimize, undermine, whatever you want to characterize the mueller investigation but it seems pretty aggressive from a lay perspective here. is that what it looks like to you? >> it does. remember, one of the things that president trump asked jim comey to consider was letting flynn go. let's let this guy go. he's a good guy. comey refused to do that. flynn may have had a wonderful career in the military but as national security add vierz, he lied to the vice president and other officials giving the russians leverage over the security add viedser of the united states. because trump couldn't get comey to let flynn go, he had to find somebody. sadly, bill barr seems to be the guy. he doesn't have any difficulty undermining the work of the men and women of the fbi and the u.s. attorney's office and of the special counsel's office time and time again. he did it with respect to the roger stone

chuck?u, katy. >>> coming up, live in a town in germany that's been forced to impose a new round of lockdowns after it saw a spike in coronavirus infections. >>> plus, how president trump's messaging around this pandemic, including announcing he's now taking hydroxychloroquine measures up to his predecessors during times of global crisis. you're watching msnbc. and longer on pain than tylenol. when pain happens, aleve it. all day strong. >>> germany, considered one of the models for containing the spread of coronavirus, is facing a second wave of outbreaks in some regions as the country continues to do its version of a phased reopening. two hard-hit regions puttingy in country's so-called emergency brake system to the test meant to trigger new lockdowns if there's a spike in infections. nbc's carl nasman joins us from greitz, germany. okay. so they kicked in the emergency brake. what does that look like, carl? >> i'm standing in one of those epicenters that you mentioned. the new coronavirus

chuck? >> shaquille brewster getting us starred in minneapol started in minneapolis, shaq, thank you. blaine is here to report. >> reporter: what we saw play out on the streets of atlanta was a much different and much calmer scene than what we watched unfold on friday night and due in large part to two things. more rules and more resources. atlanta mayor ordered everyone off the streets of atlanta by 9:00 p.m. a citywide curfew. we saw national guard troops coming in edition to local law enforcement to contain the crowds. atlanta police told us they made 70 arrests overnight and this morning, georgia governor brian kemp has authorized even more national guard troops, as many as 3,000 to fan out across the state of georgia as officials here prepare for another night of protests. chuck? >> thank you. garrett hake is here in washington where he is following the night long protests in lafayette park across from the white house. it was a rough night friday night. how was it last night, garrett? >

chuck? >> yeah. that one piece of the fear factor, i don't know how you fully get rid of that in this political environment. but that is all of those factors need to be addressed. thank you very much. katy, over to you. >>> chuck, coming up, the change that's could be coming to the democrat democratic national convention this summer. it may look very different. ook t so, no more tossing and turning... or trouble falling asleep. because only tempur-pedic uses proprietary tempur® material... that continuously adapts and responds to your body, to relieve pressure... so you get deep, uninterrupted sleep. all night. every night. the tempur-pedic summer of sleep starts now, with all tempur-pedic mattresses on sale, and savings up to $500 on adjustable sets. s at university of phoenix, we know you're always there for them. that's why our advisors are always here for you. learn more at phoenix.edu. . >>> the coronavirus outbreak already pushed the date of the democratic national convention in milwaukee for m

>> right, chuck.o what we really need right now, we need -- we have two things that are really lacking on a widespread level. we need strategic widespread testing and strategic widespread social isolation, physical distancing. these two things are just not happening on a national level. this is not a win-win. this is a fail-fail. and as a result you're seeing this ongoing rise in cases and in deaths. and let's just bring it -- if i may hone it down from the microscopic of 73,000 deaths down to the microscopic which is a man, a woman and sometimes a child is dying right now, they are getting sick, they are burdening health care professionals and hospitals and some of the people are dying. these are people that you know, i know, people that we love and care about. so i really think that we need this sense of compassion and empathy from all of our leaders from the mayor of a small town to a governor of a state of 30 million to the leader of a country of 330 million people. so, yeah, testing is not the be

chuck? >> thank you.hanks to both ron and erin with the latest from both coasts on that front. all right. katy, you driving anywhere this weekend? more than 100 miles? i don't know if i am. >> no. i'm working on monday. so i will be home. as i always am. home, home, home. stuck here forever. >> exactly. >> pitty us. we're fine. we hear it over and over. wear mask when you leave your house. when you're around other people. but why is it so important? we're going to look at the science next. nt importa we're going to look at the science next them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely. new sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. there's no question it's something that i would recommend. i have moderate to severe pnow, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my s

chuck?quille brewster, thank you very much. >>> chuck, over to you. >> you know, multiple police chiefs across the country condemned the actions of the officer in minnesota. among them is detroit police chief james craig who joins us now. chief craig, i want to start with you with a question i asked to a counterpart of why nuyours houston. is this a recruiting issue or training issue? is this a vetting issue of future officers? is this a culture issue? it's clearly systemic. >> you know, i can tell you looking at this situation, looking back when i started 44 years ago, ten years after detroit civil unrest, i didn't want to be a police officer. but i looked that as an opportunity to be part of meaningful change. so one of the messages i'm trying to get out is, look, you don't like what's going on and, you know, police officers and how they provide service in your community, become part of the solution. that's my message. the vast majority of men and women who do this work are some of the bes

chuck? >> ann guerin, it struck us that the president is attempting to pick fights that actually go in the face arguably of keeping numbers low. he's pushing for churches to hurry and reopen, which, of course, can cause a spike in cases. he's calling for the rnc at full capacity,ing could cause a hot spot in charlotte. he doesn't want mail-in voting. voting in person could cause an expansion of the virus. obviously perpetuating a culture war on masks, a political divide that may not be as big as it appears, all of this is rhetorical. and we know this is not new from him but he's really ramped up the need to find new fights to have to avoid this virus. >> yeah, chuck, it's clear that the president is using a couple of pages from a well-known playbook, destruction, burn things down. have a big fight. make a very big explosion somewhere so that he creates a distraction. both of those things are happening. and there's another thing happening as well, which is the president is making a pretty gri

>> that's no, chuck.ruly the purpose of an antibody test is for some sort of community surveillance, to understand who had been exposed. the cdc should be doing, and they are conducting kind of a nationwide surveillance, but that does not help us in those daily reporting numbers. it helps us in a different way to tell us really what is the kind of prevalence of the virus. so there's a utility for it, but then you heard that even as of today the fda pulled about 27 antibody tests that received some sort of approval, marketing themselves, so we know there's actually a lot of bad testing going on, so they're of no value to a person and really only useful separately to think how much of the country has been exposed to coronavirus. >> if you were in your old job now, dr. patel, what would you demand of the cdc director now? >> i thought about this a lot. number one, that's no question we would need to understand where things went wrong, why this is in the state that it is, and really the accountability would c

chuck?> thank you. >>> coming up, california governor gavin newsom singles out a hands-on business for spreading coronavirus in his state. the nation grapples with the unemployment crisis we will talk to senator angus king about what the federal government plans to do to help. that's ahead. he federal government plans to do to help that's ahead save hundreds on your wireless bill without even leaving your house. just keep your phone and switch to xfinity mobile. you can get it by ordering a free sim card online. once you activate, you'll only have to pay for the data you need- saving you up to $400 a year. there are no term contracts, no activation fees, and no credit check on the first two lines. get a $50 prepaid card when you switch. it's the most reliable wireless network. and it could save you hundreds. xfinity mobile. newsom says he's being cautious when it comes to reopening some businesses in california and with good reason. >> this whole thing started in the state of california, the

chuck? ling kent, is there an emergency brake that newsom would pull and what is the metric that he would pull that brake on a specific county? is it hospitalizations? is it icu beds? what is his -- that number one metric he's most concerned about when pulling the brake? >> when you look at what he said yesterday, it looks like everything is based on hospitalization rates here and making sure that there's enough testing. so testing has become much more common here. the protective gear for health care workers. also more prevalent, more available according to the governor's office. so when you look at what he's saying, it's basically on those rates of hospitalization and icu and cases overall. and so that percentage rate no higher than 8% of a positive rate among people who test for the virus appears to be that threshold. >> well, let's move to the other side, other coast here. ellison barber, you're in north carolina. you have a governor moving from his version of phase one to phase two. so l

it is meet the dress daily, i'm chuck todd continuing msnbc breaking news coverage of the coronavirusandemic. at least 85,000 americans have now died in this pandemic. that threshold we crossed today. today we also learned that more than 36 million americans have now lost their jobs because of this pandemic as well. both of those grim figures are expected to get worse, potentially much worse. and the dysfunction and political impulses of this administration threaten to exacerbate this crisis even more. right now, president trump is downplaying warnings from scientists inside his administration and yesterday he claimed dr. fauci was playing all sides of the reopening debate. today, he's claiming that the testimony from dr. rick bright, a top vaccine expert, is simply not legitimate. >> our window of opportunity is closing. if we fail to improve our response now based on science, i fear the pandemic will get worse and be prolonged. there will be likely a resurgence of covid-19 this fall, and it will be greatly compounded by the challenges of seasonal influenza. without better planning,

chuck? all right. ellison barber in gainesville, georgia, thank you. katy, just one quick code on this. it seems like a lot of states, the stats aren't holding up under scrutiny. we're finding out they're mixing tests. we're finding out they're double counting. if one person gets two tests, they count it as if they tested two people. you know, we're finding a couple states doing. that a couple states mixing the diagnostics testing. it's starting, when you peel back the onion in these states, it's starting to make me nervous about a lot of the collected data that we so trust because only is as good as the data you're getting from these states and right now quite a few of them, we had a virginia issue, we had a texas issue, now a georgia issue, a florida issue. this is starting to become a problem. zblfr a >> and this is a perfect example of why you need investigative journalists, people willing to get down into the numbers and double check them and hold governments accountable, especially in

and our continuing coverage of the coronavirus pandemic >> announcer: this is "meet the press" with chuck todd >>> good sunday morning. it was on january 6th that the cdc first issued a travel notice for one china. consider what has happened in less than four months time more than 1.1 million confirmed cases of covid-19 have been diagnosed in the u.s. and more than 66,000 americans have died. the american economy shrunk by nearly 5% in the first quarter with the worst yet to come some 30 million americans have filed for unemployment benefits just in the past six weeks those are the sobering numbers but this is not like another crisis think 9/11, oklahoma city, even the "challenger accident. >> we see it in states extending stay-at-home guidelines. we see it in a gallup poll find 44% of americans would be willing to return to activities right now if no restrictions right now while only 4% of democrats say the exact same thing. we see it in vice president not wearing a face mask at the mayo clinic where it's the rule we can even see it in the "the wall street journal" that the trump campaig

(sot) >> trevor: yes, chuck e.has been pretending to be a different place online to try and sell pizzas. this is officially the weirdest episode of "catfish" ever. by the way, i can also just say i do not trust the person who uncovered this sciem? because what adult knows the flavor of chuck e. cheese pizza so well? ( guy ) "wait a minute... this is chuck e. cheese! i eat this everyday!" ( cop ) "all lright, we're going to investigate, but after that, we're investigating you, too, weirdo." and speaking of ingenuity, in south korea, one soccer team got a little too creative about how to fill empty stadium seats. >> reporter: a soccer team in south korea is in hot water after being accused of using "adult companion" dolls to fill empty seats at their stadium. f.c. seoul wanted to fill empty seats with mask-wearing mannequins at its home opener on sunday. but some observers of the game on tv noticed that these fake fans looked a lot like sex dolls. the club has issued an apology on social media and claims they were as

>> that's correct, chuck. it's important that as elected officials whether as mayors, county commissioners, or governors, as elected officials we should shut up and do more listening and we should be listening to our health experts and those in the medical field in our local areas. when they make suggestions to us in this pandemic and health crisis, we should follow them and take their recommendation. >> you're six weeks into this. what do you feel like you've learned about this virus, what you've learned about the balance between life and livelihoods? >> we are in the middle of two crises. we have a health crisis and an economic crisis. and as it relates to the health crisis, there's still a lot who need to know around data. they are around the number of symptoms, cases, hospitalization as well as testing availability and tracking. of those five things, here at the local level, the only thing that is satisfactory is hospitalization. but there is so much more to learn as it relates to making a data driven deci

>> not much, chuck.nd i think for a lot of republicans and conservatives, the idea that the dnc is going to put together an unbiased panel to look through the documents of joe biden is kind of stretching it. look, chuck, we are in the place where we have been for so much of these last couple years especially in the light of this me too movement about the fight not just over who to believe but the fight over hypocrisy. that's where a lot of this debate is being centered on. democrats, including joe biden, but a lot of democrats and liberals who held one standard for folks like brett kavanaugh and seem to be holding a different standard for joe biden. this, chuck, reminds me a little bit of the battle we saw in 2016, and quite frankly, we still see today with evangelicals and their support for donald trump. how can you support this personal who is going against the standards you set for somebody else? at the end of the day, this is what voters are left with. not so much who they believe or don't believe bu

with you, responding to senator chuck grassley, the republican from iowa making a request for the recent termination of a pair of inspectors general. the white house said that it followed the law and its notification to congress and use the very same standard as president obama did. chuck grassley says without sufficient explanation it is still fair to question the president's rationale. shannon. >> shannon: so much news, but you packed it all in there, kevin. thank you so much. excellent job. the meeting into a potential campaign focus for joe biden then how he could backfire, but the fallout continues over the presumptive democratic nominee's controversial comments about black voters. correspondent jacqui heinrich has a story for us tonight. good evening, jacqui. >> good evening, shannon. some calling it a risky plan from the biden campaign as he takes on president trump's strong spot. in the three years in office, president trump has a lot of bragging rights when it comes to the economy.

after a quick response from the democratic leader in the senate chuck schumer who said quote, president trump should learn that by muzz ling science and the truth, it will only prolong this health and economic crisis. joinings now for the interview tonight is the top democrat in the united states senate new york senior senator chuck schumer. thank you for taking the time to be here tonight. >> good evening, rachel. >> let me ask you first about what i just mentioned there. this white house notification today that members of the administration's coronavirus task force won't be allowed to testify at any time this entire month unless the white house chief of staff gives a permission slip. it's to me, it strikes me as a strange sort of proclamation, i wonder if this is something you expected, or if this is a surprise to you. >> well, it's not surprising, because donald trump and his administration, by and large, have just shied away from the truth. they don't want to admit the reality. president trump said a month ago, every american who wants a test can get a test. well, obviously, that is

chuck, thanks. >> quickly, katy, i'd be put fred smith of fedex in charge or somebody like that who's -- spends his whole life doing logistics. >> somebody. really anyone. chuck, we have something interesting coming up in the 2:00 hour. something we haven't seen in more than a year. but something anybody who's been watching the 2:00 hour for the past few years will be familiar with because we used to do this thing all the time. the white house briefing room is packed and that's because we're going to get the first formal press briefing in over a year with the new press secretary. we're going to bring that to you live as it starts. you're watching msnbc. s.ve as it start you're watching msnbc. you should be mad they gave this guy a promotion. you should be mad at forced camaraderie. and you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. but you're not mad, because you have e*trade, who's tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they m

chuck, good morning to you am thanks, as always, for joining us. what a week it has been, chuck. we've seen protests break out in cities across america including right here in the bay area after the killing of george floyd in police custody in minneapolis. what are your takeaways from what we've seen from the protesters, from the state officials, from the president? >> look, i think we have to realize we have to take a step back and realize what's happened the first five months in this country, and then put yourself in the shoes of the african-american community and think about what this virus has done on the health, african-americans getting hit harder than any other group, unemployment, african-americans getting h getting hit harder than any other group. you sprinkle in three more egregious examples in the last couple of months from the jogger in georgia to the emt worker to what happened to george floyd. and that's a lot for one community and you have to ask yourself that there's a feeling of george floyd sort of the straw at this point, the proverbial straw that broke the bac

i think the point i want to come back to, though, chuck. this virus is going to keep transmitting whether or not, whatever we do. we can nibble it at the edges, in some cases like new york and other cities did. you can surely shave off the top of the peak, but let's remember, this virus is on its own. in 1918, when influenza virus occurred, we had big peaks in the spring in several selected cities in the country, and it went away for four months and came back with a vengeance. i worry right now more than anything if the virus suddenly starts to disappear, because in fact what that may tell us is we are going to act like an influenza pandemic and come late summer, early fall, we could have a peak that made everything else we have done so far look mild. contact tracing and testing are important, but they won't stop that. that's what we need to start planning for. what are the different scenarios that are going to get us from 5% to 15% of the u.s. population as has currently been infected to what will be 60% or 70%. we don't have a plan for th

chuck, we appreciate your insight. you will have more time with chuck if you join him for this morning's "meet the press. exclusive interviews with the top medical experts on the reopening of america. interesting to look into that. tune in at 8:00 a.m. right after this newscast. and if you watch every sunday in about 30 minutes from now we will talk with larry gerston for our weekly segment. we'll take a look at governor gavin newsom's change in tone regarding the reopening of california. it is rare that nicotine is referred to in any positive light but a new study may show nicotine patches could help prevent coronavirus infections. this is from french researchers who say they found a lower covid-19 infection rate in smokers versus nonsmokers. they bind to the same cell receptor and that nicotine is able to block the virus from attaching. researchers now plan to use nicotine patches on health care workers to test this hypothesis but because it's so controversial the world health organization is also looking into it and

chuck? >> yeah. burns, this is becoming a clearly part of the culture wars, part of our well known political divide in this country. dasha with reporting on the ground in beaver county, pennsylvania. thank you. katy, over to you. >>> chuck, ahead, a reminder of just how contagious coronavirus is. a member of the nbc family and expert on how viruses spread was hospitalized with covid-19. tells us how he thinks he got it. it is something few of us get to experience, a journey to iran. we turn on the camera as our reporters travels back from london to tehran. he'll bring you his story in just a moment. he'll bring you his story in just a moment. i just love hitting the open road and telling people that liberty mutual customizes your insurance, so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i do motivational speakingld. in addition to the substitute teaching. i honestly feel that that's my calling-- to give back to younger people. i think

we're here with senator chuck schumer.checks to go out, the president is going to want his name on the next round of checks, and you've introduced the no p.r. act to remove the president's name from the checks. >> yeah. >> stephen: don't you think that's going to be a bit of a tough sell to get him to sign something saying he can't sign things? >> look, the point was to point out something, which is president trump, this is not about you, this is not about your reelection, this is about helping america, and if it takes some extra time to get these letters out, if it costs some extra money but it sends the wrong signal, this is not a political -- this is not something to get political gain out of. we should all be working together to solve this -- one of the most awful problems the country's faced, you know, maybe the greatest problem since world war two, and, instead, he seems to be concerned with fighting his enemies, praising himself, that's a bad idea. so it was sort of symbolic. >> stephen: i know you want to protect t

chuck, over to you.'m sure you and christian could use that too, chuck. >> i'll tell you, anything, anything to get out of the four walls these days, that's for sure. have to go a little ways into the shenandoah valley. good news about a coronavirus vaccine being tested in england. we'll have the details in our next hour. you're watching msnbc. next hour. you're watching msnbc. when you shop for your home at wayfair you get way more than free shipping. you get thousands of items you need to your door fast the way it works best for you. even the big stuff. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match on your schedule. you get free two day shipping on things that make your home feel like you! wayfair. way more than furniture. that's why usaa is giving payment relief options to eligible members so they can pay for things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. discover all the ways we're helping members today. or cr

>> chuck, the shore answer is no. this white house wants to forge forward, full steam ahead, with reopening the economy. of course they say they want things to be done slowly and responsibly but that's not the public rhetoric from the white house. you mentioned dr. birx and dr. fauci. they've really take ayn back seat here. those briefings aren't held anymore. their media appearances have been curtailed at the behest of the west wing. the public optics are now all about the economy and trying to move forward. and to carol's point, and that's a direct link to the campaign. this president knows that yes, of course there are 90,000 americans who have died because of is this but right now their focus is also on the tens of millions of jobs that have been lost. the soaring unemployment rate. thinking that he can't win re-election if the economy is in these dire straits. and he feels like he needs this summer for it to turn around. he's trying to project an air of normalcy. he is doing? traveling but as you pointed out it's

katy and chuck? >> tom, i'm curious here, how relevant it is in the prosecution that essentially these police officers, they were investigating a nonviolent crime. a forgery. not armed robbery. how relevant is it that they basically used excessive force on a nonviolent investigation? is that relevant? >> reporter: it's a great question and potentially quite relevant. when you go to and i've actually got the authorized use of force law here in the state of minnesota. one of the thing that's important that they ask somebody to be assessed and in the minneapolis police department use of force manual is the type of crime that somebody may have committed and particularly whether or not that crime that you're using the use of force to either make an arrest or keep somebody in custody, if that person is a threat to others or a threat to the officer, it's very difficult and this is about active duty people that are part of major police departments up and down the east coast is they said this all came out of

pascually's shares kitchen space with chuck e.t the pizza is not exactly the same. it has a thicker crust with new blends of cheeses they tell us. chuck e. cheese was founded in san jose in 1977. it's got several bay area locations. by the way, applebee's also delivered under a different name, neighborhood wings. so ama, you'd be in the chuck e. cheese market given a 2-year-old. would you feel deceived or no big deal about chuck e. cheese or pascally's? >> i'd say a little deceived. i mean, if i could go to the website and it would say somewhere that it was chuck e. cheese, but hey, we've upgraded the pizza, that would be one thing. and by the way, i feel bad that i'm from san jose and i didn't realize that chuck e. cheese was founded in san jose. i feel like a poor san josan. san josan? >> yes. and because of that, that will be your last four@4 appearance. >> oh, no! >> spencer, no! >> it's normally her show anyways. kristen, a little switcheroo going on here. i don't know if it's intentional or not, but if you were the mind-set