host: our guest is chuck abbot. the programs fall into four main areas. guest: marketing orders which limit the types and sizes and even color of commodities that can be taken into market. host: crop insurance, commodity programs, conservation programs. which are deemed to be on the chopping block? are some of these programs deemed to be more he central? guest: the 2012 farm -- at the moment, and this has been true since the start of the year, the direct payment is most on the chopping block and has been mentioned explicitly by people, meaning legislators. it got some mention in the deficit commission report, an area to look for cuts. that is the most obvious place the cut. looking into the budget side, it is less money -- there will be less money for the 2012 farm law than the 2008 farm law. it will be $10 billion behind where they were in 2008. debt limit we had over the fsummer tease there will be further cuts. at the same time, we have a direct payment that identifies the most obvious place to go for funding and crop insurance is increasingly expensiv