. >> chuck, not a wayward republican, but one who has been at odds with donald trump for quite some time, ted cruz. the fact that mike lee is on top of donald trump's supreme court list, does this make you think maybe ted cruz is not far behind in backing donald trump? mike lee and ted cruz, those are homeboys. >> they are, but mike lee, just because lee is on the list, lee hasn't endorsed trump yet. i don't know if that means it's going to change. so let's not -- just because lee is on the list, i don't want people to think that somehow this means lee has endorsed him. that's not the case. i tell you, i don't know, i can't imagine that the guy who gave that speech on wednesday night of the republican convention to vote your conscience, ted cruz, that he would suddenly -- >> oh, charles, stop bringing rationality to this election. that's ridiculous. i have to ask you about monday night. the big debate. we're all talking about debate prep. hillary clinton studying, studying. donald out there eating cheesesteaks. do you believe that's how he's rolling or do you think you look under the hood and team