we talk to congressman chuck fleischmann of tennessee who was at the field when the shoot og kurd. >> as i got in and i walked and i approached the batting cage, close to home plate but on the third base side, large crack. i didn't realize at that time that that was a gunshot. there s really no since of alarm at that point in time until about 10 seconds later when the shooter opened up with literally a barrage of gunfire. >> rose: we continue with acer sam elliott, his new film is called "the hero." >> i'm riding the peak right now. it's all peaks and valleys. have i had a wonderful career, it's been almost 49 years now and to still be at it doing something i loved as a kid and always aspired to do, you know, i'm a lucky man. >> rose: and we conclude with dexter filkins the writer and reporter for "the new yorker" magazine, his latest piece in the magazine was a profile of defense secretary james mattis. >> even then all the marines were kind of whispering and looking on him with some a-we, there is general mattis. and-- . >> rose: but he. >> he was, if you remember that time the enti

charlie: congressman chuck fleischmann, thank you for visiting us today. rep. eischmann: charlie, it is a pleasure. ♪ charlie: sam elliott is here and we are really pleased about that. his baritone drawl and handlebar mustache are synonymous with a number of films. his career has undergone a transformation, with many roles in sitcoms and indie flicks. his latest film fall -- finds the hillng and over actor confronting mortality. it is called "the hero." it is called a love letter, not just assam, but a dying breed of actor and film in hollywood. here is the -- >> lone star and barbecue sauce, the perfect partner for your chicken. >> perfect, one more. >> lone star barbecue sauce. >> have you ever heard of the western appreciation guild? they want to give you a lifetime achievement award. >> anything else? a job offer, a script? >> nothing else at the moment. >> dad, what you doing here? >> i guess it has been a while? >> you trying to give me a heart attack? >> are you ok? you seem a little lost? >> the last thing i did i was proud of was 40 years ago. charlotte

[applause] >> chuck fleischmann. [applause] >> matt gaetz. bill johnson. [applause] trent kelly. darren lahood. doug lamalfa. [applause] barry loudermilk. [applause] roger marshall. pat meehan. [applause] john moolenaar. gary palmer. paul. [applause] erik paulsen. steve pearce. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] [applause] >> and now for the democrats. [cheers and applause] [applause] joe crowley. >> [applause] joe donnelly. >> [applause] mike doyle. jared huffman. >> [applause] hakeem jeffries. >> [applause] >> daniel kildee. >> [applause] [cheers and applause] >> bill pascrell. >> ed perlmutter. polis. >> [applause] >> cedric richmond. >> [applause] raul ruiz. >> [applause] >> tim ryan. >> linda sanchez. >> [applause] marc veasey. >> [applause] >> eric swalwell. >> [applause] >> ladies and gentleman, please rise. [applause] >> please rise for "the star spangled banner" and "god bless america." >> oh say can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming whose broad stripes and bright stars through the p

chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were sitting ducks in that dugout." "you have a baseball bat. they have a rifle. you're defenseless."< rep. chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were literally just crying for help and help did finally arrive more nattwo capitol police officers were injured as they traded fire, they were taking on a guy with a rifle from 90 to 120 feet away. they had pistols, he had a rifle had they not been there i think it would be a massacre.president trump: "many lives would have been lost if not for the heroic actions of the two capitol police officers who took down the gunman despite sustaining gunshot wounds during a very very brutal assault."president trump: "authorities are continuing to investigate the crime and the assailant has now died from his injuries"66-year-old james hodgkinson lived in this house in belleville, illinois."i just want to let people know that he wasn't evil, that we was tired of some of the politics going on."senator b

congressman chuck fleischmann joining us from capitol hill, thank you for joining me. laura: for an update, we go to regain evite and often -- to vaidyanathan, who has been there all day. rajini: at the moment this is still very much an active crime scene. the first thing to point out was a clarification that five individuals in total were shot this morning, that included the gunman himself. the gunman died from a gunshot wound and multiple law enforcement officers were involved in the response from that. a clarification and a confirmation that the gunman was 66-year-old james hopkinson -- hodgkinson from illinois. they believe that mr. hodgkinson moved toillinois but y alexandria in march and was living out of a white cargo van, possibly on the street we are on the a few blocks from baseball field. i asked the fbi if they had mr. hodgkinson on their radar. they refused to comment. they said they will not talk about the character or nature of the case because there is a lot of speculation. how much more significance has tomorrow taken on because of the shooting? rajini

chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were sitting ducks in that dugout." "you have a baseball bat. they have a rifle. you're defenseless."< rep. chuck fleischmann (r) tn > "we were literally just crying for help and help did finally arrive more nattwo capitol police officers were injured as they traded fire, they were taking on a guy with a rifle from 90 to 120 feet away. they had pistols, he had a rifle had they not been there i think it would be a massacre.president trump: "many lives would have been lost if not for the heroic actions of the two capitol police officers who took down the gunman despite sustaining gunshot wounds during a very very brutal assault."president trump: "authorities are continuing to investigate the crime and the assailant has now died from his injuries"66-year-old james hodgkinson lived in this house in belleville, illinois."i just want to let people know that he wasn't evil, that we was tired of some of the politics going on."senator be

congressman chuck fleischmann from tennessee who spoke with mary bruce. >> how are you doing? oh, my gosh. >> it is a sad day. my personal thoughts and prayers go out to all of those who were severely injured and wounded and there were several. my injuries are minor. thank god. for the capitol police. they were there to guard steve scalise. but for that fact there would have been much, much more damage. i don't know why i'm very thankful that i was not shot. i was on that side of the field at the conclusion of practice. walking down the third base side, visiting with my good friend trent kelly from mississippi when we were talking about how practice had gonna day and as i went around, i heard a large single pop, one shot. i didn't know it was a gun. so we were standing around. within moments there was a barrage of shots being fired. we have a lot of voluntary coaches. and we hit the ground immediately and then we realized we were out there. we didn't exactly know where the shots were coming from but it was loud. it was constant. i actually ran and jumped in the dugout. that's

tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann and others sprinted to the dugout where he says they felt likeitting ducks. >> today i experienced the carnage of actual gunshots being fired first hand. it was horrific. >> reporter: witnesses say it soon became a gun battle between the shooter and police. congressman joe barton, who manages the team, was there with his 10 year old son jack, who took cover under a nearby suv. >> dozens, if not hundreds of shots fired. it was scary. >> reporter: rodney davis was taking batting practice when the attack began. >> i heard a loud noise. i thought it was a construction site dropping a large piece of metal. and the next thing i heard was, run, he's got a gun. >> reporter: the gunman approached a fence along the third-base line but never got on the field. steve scalise standing on second base was shot first. other law makers took cover in the first base dugout. scalise dragged himself across the field, leaving a trail of blood. after the attack was over, jeff flake and others ran to his aid. >> he was just laying on the field, been shot in the hip. so w

here to discuss is tennessee congressman and baseball team member chuck fleischmann. did you do last night? >> i did pretty well. i scored a run. my manager told me i'm still the fastest man on the team, so at almost 55 i will take that before we start i want to say hi to my dear friend steve scalise. steve, i love you, i miss you. we were thinking about you last night. all of america was with you and the other folks who were injured and shot america began its healing process last night and you led the way. steve: indeed. well put, congressman, thank you very much. you know what? as people look in on this friday morning they are going okay, that was a great night in national park and great to see nancy pelosi and speaker ryan and pich an and mitch and k together last night. where do we go from here? is anything going to change? >> i hope. so let's face it, america is the greatest nation in the world because of our diversity. i'm a conservative republican. and i represent a wonderful district in east tennessee with people with good, strong conservative values i realize

flake took his belt off and made a turn kit around zack's leg to stop the you know, i remember chuck fleischmann screaming to hurry up and get here. jack barton was in the dugout with us. just trying to take care of each other. there was a lot of heros today among my friends. it's something i will not forget. it seemed like it went forever. the police say they got here in about three or four minutes and i'm sure that's the case, but it's a long time. they say 60 shots were fired but without our capitol police who took literally took a step forward when they didn't have to. they could've stepped backwards. they stepped forward. they saved all of us out there. there is no question about it. we had no arms. all we had and the shooter. but i'm praying for whip scalise, the policeman, mika and then my young man that works for us in our office, zack, who will be fine. so with that i'll be glad to take some questions. >> reporter: that right there is zach barth's boss and the staffer who got injured and got a huge assist from arizona senator flake today when he tied a turnaket around his wound. he is e

>> chuck fleischmann, the congressman from tennessee, said, how am i supposed to feel safe on a ball field? how am i supposed to feel safe out in the open and this is something that brought people together and it was such an event that they have it at nats park. >> it's big. >> people donate it to come see it. it's something that the media pays attention to. it's not just inside baseball, it's actually something that the public gets to enjoy. it was scheduled for tomorrow night. >> and more than a million dollars -- excuse me, $600,000 is one of the last numbers that i heard for the fund-raiser that was collected last year for local charities. something that they can all get behind. >> and families go he was in the capitol and wearing a baseball cap. at least one or two kids were at the park. they go there for a safe, secure, family time and across the country, it's such a terrible message. >> and we've been monitoring social media and we're also now seeing from one of the producers, the congressional producers for nbc news but a posting from one of the victims in this incident today

. >> tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann was there and he also dove for cover. he saw bloodied elbows, bloody hands from trying to shield themselves. i spoke with fleischmann a short time ago. >> well, this was a routine day of practice for our republican baseball team and it was at the conclusion of practice so i was doing my stretching like i always do after practice. i'm 54 now so i stretch after practice. i was walking in. >> reporter: where were you? >> i was in left field. and i was walking in on the third base side. i saw my dear friend trent kelly and we were bantering back and forth about how well we had done. i didn't realize it at that point but at that time the shooter had to be at my back. i walked forward and then we heard a single gunshot. i heard a pop. i did not recognize it as a gunshot at that time so i didn't do anything. i stood there and i was with my friend larry huearty. within a few seconds, there were multiple gunshots being fired and larry and i both went down. the shots were coming from the third base side. by this time, i was behind

. >> joining us now is the republican congressman from tennessee, chuck fleischmann, on the field at the time of the shooting. representative, thanks for being here with us. and i know it was a tough time for you. have you spoken with representative scalise and how are you doing now that those -- these days have passed since that incident? >> richard, thank you. i have not had an opportunity to speak with my dear friend, steve scalise, but i want to wish my friend steve scalise a very happy father's day. along with all the other dads in the united states of america. i am doing much better, it was a very horrific day. i never experienced anything like that, but i wish steve, mr. mika, all those shot and injured a full and speedy recovery. >> representative, i'm so glad to hear that you're doing better and that you heard the good news about steve scalise doing better too from mike vicar a. we have that ad that came out in georgia and both sides -- both parties are saying not good stuff, this ad that is attacking ossoff in that runoff. your reaction to that ad. >> well, i have not seen

a little earlier tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann spoke to our casey hunt. let's listen to their conversation. >> he and i decided to make a run to the dugout. that's where a lot of the members got hurt like myself trying to dive into the dugout to find a safe place. unfortunately when we got to the dugout we realized we were still under attack, the shots were still coming. the capitol police fortunately were there because of our chip, steve scalise. they returned fire and they saved our lives and the lives of other people because bewwe werel sitting ducks. a lot of people were bleeding. one gentleman was shot in the leg. one local law enforcement arrived and subdued the shooter, we were realized to get up and then we regularized the magnitude of the carnage, our members who had been shot, staff members who had been severely wondered. one young gentleman got shot in the chest. it was horrible. he was just in my office yesterday. >> reporter: who is the young man. his name is mica. he plays with us every day. a lot of the hill staffers and folks come out and

i'll speak to congressman chuck fleischmann of tennessee, he's a republican and he was there on the scene and joining us on the phone. congressman, first of all, tell us how you're doing? >> wolf, i'm shook up. thank god. i'm a little bit bloodied from jumping in the dugout when we were under fire, but there were several other people shot and heart a lot worse. just a horrible, horrible morning for us all and a sad day for america. >> are you still there at the baseball field? >> no, sir. they kept us in an area that was blocked off until everybody was interviewed and then the capitol police put us on a bus any brought us back to capitol hill. so all of us who were able are now back on capitol hill in our offices. so walk us through what happened. where were you when the first -- when you heard that first shot? >> yes, sir. we were close to the conclusion of the practice. we practice every day. the republicans and democrat dechls both have a baseball team and i play on the republican team, this is my seventh year and i was walking from left field down the third base side and said hello to

you know, i remember and chuck fleischmann was on the phone to 911 screaming to hurry up and get here. jack barton, joe barton's son was in the dugout with us, and we were all taking care of him. just trying to take care of each other. there were a lot of heros today among my friends. it's something i will not forget. it seemed like it went forever. the police say they got there in about three or four minutes, and i'm sure that that's the case but it's a long time. they say 60 shots were fired. but without our capitol police who took -- literally took a step forward when they didn't have to. they could have stepped backwards. they stepped forward. they saved all of us out there. there is no question about it. we had no arms. all we had was bats, and the shooter. but i'm praying for whip scalise, the policemen, mika, and then my young man that works for us in our office zack who will be fine. so with that i'll be glad to take some questions, if you have any. yes, ma'am. >> what can you tell us about steve scalise's condition. have you talked to him? >> i have not talked to him but i un

one thing that i was just told by chuck fleischmann, he said they've decided on the republican side thatgo out are going to be the people who were at that shooting yesterday. normally they have a regular starting lineup, but this one is going to be adjusted in memorial -- memory of what happened and in honor of steve scalise, you're going to see a lot of lsu hats. that's his alma mater. when you see somebody wearing an alabama shirt and an lsu hat, you know this isn't a regular game. >> chris, thank you very much. enjoy the game. thank you for watching. see you back here tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. "hardball" with chris matthews starts right now. >>> is the veep in deep? let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight, there are new indications the trump/russia probe could reach deeper into the white house. vice president mike pence has retained outside counsel now to represent him for the course of the investigation. it comes as nbc news today confirmed "the washington post" scoop that president trump is under criminal investigation by the special c

. >> chuck fleischmann, marty, the photographer was there. i think mo brooks came in. during that time you'd see more and more pile in. i think there were about 12. some staff, some members, six, eight members in the dugout. like i said, there were people hiding behind trees. there's a dog park over there, always people over there. i think they were running the wrong direction. >> ten minutes to get the gunman down but you had security details. what took so long? >> he had a lot of ammo. i think he must have been secured behind the third base dugout for a while. so it was tough to get to him. >> from a tactical standpoint. >> seemed so. eventually he was out in the open. marty, our photographer saw him the first time raise the rifle. he thought, why in the world is somebody bird hunting out here at this time. looked like 40s, maybe 50, dark hair, white, with a blue shirt on, i think jeans. my view of him was quick behind the dugout. when i realized he had a line of sight into the dugout with all the members there, then we obviously went back down quickly. >> reports of

a little earlier tennessee congressman chuck fleischmann spoke to our casey hunt. let's listen to their conversation. >> he and i decided to make a run to the dugout. that's where a lot of the members got hurt like myself trying to dive into the dugout to find a safe place. unfortunately when we got to the dugout we realized we were still under attack, the shots were still coming. the capitol police fortunately were there because of our chip, steve scalise. they returned fire and they saved our lives and the lives of other people because bewwe werel sitting ducks. a lot of people were bleeding. one gentleman was shot in the leg. one local law enforcement arrived and subdued the shooter, we were realized to get up and then we regularized the magnitude of the carnage, our members who had been shot, staff members who had been severely wondered. one young gentleman got shot in the chest. it was horrible. he was just in my office yesterday. >> reporter: who is the young man. his name is mica. he plays with us every day. a lot of the hill staffers and folks come out and