chuck hagel gave marines at camp pendleton that exact assurance yesterday. >> this is not a combat boots on the ground operation. we're not going to have that kind of operation. >> that's what chuck hagel said yesterday, that was yesterday, though. and apparently today, it's a u.s. combat boots on the ground kind of operation. the pentagon confirming tonight through an anonymous u.s. defense official that a team of fewer than 20 u.s. military personnel did hit the ground today in iraq, at mt. sinjar, where civilian refugees have been trapped by isis militant fighters. in addition to helping iraqi forces that are supposed to be fighting those militant and in addition to direct air strikes, u.s. troops have also in recent days begun dropping food and water and supplies to those trapped civilians. have you seen any of the footage of those drops? the footage of them dealing with civilians on this mountain. these are not just being done by

-- >> chuck hagel, no, i don't think he said it with white 0 house approval. chuck hagel and the pentagon understand, as he said, a threat like we've never seen before. but what they also understand is they're operating inside the constraints and limitations that president obama has imposed. at this point, those constraints still exist. they're over there to protect the yazidis, now off the mountain, and to protect the u.s. presence in erbil, northern iraq. general dempsey, the head of the join chiefs of staff, has said publicly that isis cannot be defeated unless we go after them in syria. >> and you have to -- >> presidepresident obama said we will not go into syria. >> president dempsey made the point that his mission is as limited as you said. they are planning a broader mission if they get the go-ahead in the president. >> the pentagon always has more options onts table and that's become the great cliche of this administration to make americans think that there's a possibility of doing more than they're ever going to do. basically, this is a president who

that said, can we just talk a second -- look, can i point something out about chuck hagel. he's at the pentagon in a polo shirt. >> camp pendleton. >> but still, he was a little low key on this. if you want to stir up people and change the debate away from president obama calling them the j.v. and talk about what isis is and that is blood thirsty murderers get animated about that in my opinion. let's talk for a second whether or not we should put boots on the ground. there's one thing we definitely should do. no one will dispute that. up to 30,000 yazidis up on that mountain. they are starving, they are dying. there are credible reports at sky news reporting that parents are cutting themselves so their children can drink the blood because they are dying of thirst. they are literally dying of thirst. what we need to do first and foremost worry about the military openings later. right now we're humanitarians, get a bunch of food and water and medicine to those people and we'll work out the rest of it in the best way possible. but first things first. >> i read a story about a

secretary chuck hagel confirmed in keeping with u.s. policy the obama administration refused to negotiate a ransom for foley. islamic state asked his family for over $100 million. in july the pentagon deployed a rescue mission for foley and others held hostage. paul beban joins us for more. >> the white house never disclosed the operation, but decided to go public, because a number of media outlets for on the verge of reporting it. the mission to rescue james foley was over, and tragically we know it was a failure. >> reporter: some time this summer the u.s. staged a night-time rage on a compound in northern syria, with cover from drones and fighter jets, dozens of special operations forces in black hawk helicopters. swooped in, fighting their way to where they e fought foley and others were held. when they got there the hostages were gone, moved hours or days before. u.s. officials say several islamic state fighters were killed during the fire fight. one american was lightly wounded. all the americans were flown out safely. at a pentag

we heard a warning from chuck hagel yesterday. want to give you a sense of the language he is using. take a listen. >> they are beyond just a terrorist group. they marry ideology, a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess, they are tremendously well founded -- funded. oh, this is beyond anything we have seen. so you have to take a cold steely-heart look at it and get ready. >> you hear there the strong language that the defense secretary is using as he is warning that the danger the islamic state presents not just in iraq and syria, but also back in the u.s. and europe. they are voicing concerns that people may be flocking to iraq and syria, getting trained there, and then coming home to commit acts of terrorism. something that officials are saying is very real. and there is a greater concern in europe, but it's something the u.s. should be thinking about as well. can they do more to stop the islamic state? that could mean anything from more air strikes to more intelligence and special forces and what to do about

following the death of american james foley, chuck hagel called isis is a long-term threat. he said isis is more than just a terrorist group. >> they are tremendously well funded. this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. the only way you do that is you take a cold, steely hard look at it and get ready. >> nbc's brian mooar is live in washington, d.c. brian, what can you tell us about the latest on this isis threat? >> reporter: he warns this could be a long, difficult fight. the execution of american journalist james foley has sharpened washington's focus on the terrorist group isis. >> they are an imminent threat to every interest we have whether it's in iraq or anywhere else. >> reporter: iraqis are gaining background. but america's top general insists it will take more than bombs to crush isis. >> this is an organization that has an apocalyptic end of days strategic vision. which will eventually have to be defeated. >> reporter: i don't think we've seen a more significant threat to american securities since the early days of 9/11. >> rep

a mountaintop without food or water defense secretary chuck hagel confirmed the deployment while speaking to marines at camp pendleton california we're not going back into iraq in any of the same combat mission. dimensions that we once were in in iraq and very specifically this is not a combat boots on the ground operation. now the hundred thirty troops sent to iraq on tuesday will be tasked with assessing the security situation in the country's north while considering options to help the trapped iraqi refugees who started receiving humanitarian airdrops just last week in addition the u.s. announced it will be arming peshmerga kurdish forces with weapons and equipping them to help ward off the isis. increase push into their kurdish territory now this decision further adds to the growing number of u.s. armed forces there in the region and this is where things get kind of complicated

chuck hagel said the u.s. needs to, quote, get ready.actly does that mean and what does the administration willing to do? >> u.s. intelligence officials have warned that this organization has already formed cells, possibly with orders, in the west. europe, maybe the united states. they wouldn't quite go that far in briefings to reporters. but these people are out there, they have had training. and they had the intent to attack western or u.s. targets. that's part of what chuck hagel was getting at when he said get ready. in terms of how you get ready, you raise your defenses back here in the states and overseas. we could see they sent out small teams of special operations folks. they will likely plus up their intelligence operators on the ground to start waging a long war, like the kind we see in yemen or pakistan against his adversa adversary. >> yeah. and, van, president barack obama compared militants in iraq and syria to junior varsity basketball players. you know about that. you heard downplaying the threat as small league. they had

justice department is launching a criminal investigation and we are expecting to hear soon from chuck hagel and the chairman of the joint staff. and one of the questions i would wonder they will touch on is the criticism at the attempt at one point to try to free foley. we are learning more about that. the attempt to try to bring him home. an intelligent source says investigators are analyzing the voice on youtube to help determine his identity. the militant seemed to have a british accent on that tape. and u.k. prime minister david cameron said the terrorist is likely british. according to the guardian newspaper, a former prisoner of isis says the militant appears to be one of several british terrorists who guarded hostages inside syria. the former prisoner says hostages had nicknamed the group the beatle. the officials say the u.s. sent special operations forces into syria this summer to try to rescue foley and other americans. but that they could not find the hostages. officials also say isis militants demanded a ransom for foley's release. more than $123 million. jennifer griffin has mo

." >> secretary of defense chuck hagel made an alarming announcement about the terror threat posed by isis. >> the people of iraq, the country of iraq is now under threat from some of the most brutal barbaric forces we've ever seen in the world today. it's a force in a dimension that the world has never seen before. >> while president obama has said that he will not allow a caliphate to be established in iraq and syria can we with confidence say current operations are all that's needed to beat back the threat. that's in question. >> you need a truly global strategy but how are you going to deal with something like this. the pentagon says it will take ten xx years to deal with isis. why aren't we arming the kurds in syria. why aren't we bombing in syria. we're doing cosmetic stuff that won't solve the problem. >> the white house said troops that go to iraq won't engaging combat. if it's smart to limit our response that way. let's listen to this. >> american forces will not be returning combat in iraq. >> the president has made clear american military action in iraq would not include co

sector defense chuck hagel says represents a great threat to national security. as airstrikes continued today, chuck hagel insists the attack are working but says he and president obama are very clear poses.he threat isil >> we are pursuing the long-term poses a because isil long-term threat. >> and attorney general eric holder announced an investigation is being washed into the beheading of journalist james foley. >> we have long memories and our reach is wide. we will not forget what happened and people will be held accountable. one way or the other. >> critics claim the white house's reluctance has emboldened the islamic state terrorists who taunt the u.s. on social media. >> they actually take pictures of their atrocities and posted them online calling it a preview of what we can expect in america. >> forces are vowing another hostage will be next. today in florida, his mother remained guarded but said her son is alive. no one inside of the white house is commenting on whether a rescue attempt may be made. top-secret mission earlier this summer was launched i

defense secretary chuck hagel saying the u.s. may be forced to review its budget warning that a fight against isis could be more dangerous than against al qaeda. >> announcer: you're watching "worldwide exchange," bringing you business news from around the globe. >>> hey, everybody. welcome back. if you're just joining us, thank you very much for tuning in to the second hour of "worldwide exchange." we still have a lot on our plates today. we don't have any publications of european economic data, but we are squarely focused on the jackson hole symposium and especially what the fed chair janet yellen is going to be saying. in the meantime, though, glancing at the u.s. futures and the implied open, we're looking at a flat future. as we saw in europe this morning, the calls were for a flat market start and we've held on to a flattish scenario. the ftse, 6773, the xetra dax, cac 40, and ftse mib, all down around 0.5%. ten-year in germany, below 1% once again. we went below 1% for the first time in a week, a week and a half ago. never

chuck hagel made the from california. >> i recommended to the president and the president has authorized me to go ahead and send about 130 new assessment iraqmembers up to northern in thee rbil area to take a give a moreand in-depth assessment of where we iraqistinue to help the with what they're doing and now dealing are with. >> the guardian is reporting u.s. is prepared to send the iraqi government to shipment of missiles, guns, ammunition but haider al-abadi becomes the official prime minister. he has the backing of both washington and tehran. the leaky has rejected the appointment saying it violates iraq's constitution and says it would take court ruling for him to give up his post. we will have more on iraq after the headlines with journalists patrick cockburn. israeli and palestinian negotiators are in the final hours of indirect talks before the slated expiration of the second 72 hour cease-fire. violence could resume unless both sides agree to extend the truce or reach a broader agreement. negotiations have reportedly touched on israel's blockade of the gaza strip from a but the

awaiting a briefing from the pentagon following yesterday's chilling words from defense secretary chuck hagelat isis extremists pose to the homeland. hagel, saying that islamic militants that have been overrunning iraq and syria are, quote, beyond anything that we have ever seen and that terrorists are a bigger threat to america than even al-qaeda was before 9/11. this is "outnumbered," i'm andrea tan tar process, and here today, haste faulkner, jedediah, and today's hashtag one lucky guy, charles payne, and he's "outnumbered," except on the issue of making money because we

listen to what defense secretary chuck hagel said yesterday. he didn't say we had long-term or a lot of time. this a threat worse than al qaeda was before 9/11. sounds like something we need to do now. >> martin dempsey went on to say the only way to defeat them was to go into syria, which seemed to be the direct opposite of what the administration had said. >> so defense officials military and civilians not boxing the president in a corner but maybe pressuring him that air strikes in iraq in a limited way have had some impact and prevented possibly a genocide and gotten mosul dam back. we need to step it up in not just iraq but syria. that's what general dempsey said. >> ben rhodes said if you come after us, we'll come after you, as attorney general eric holder launches a criminal investigation to court here, the killers of james foley. great to see you, mr. attorney general. >> good to be with you. >> there's so much going on here. first and foremost, with mr. holder saying that this is a criminal investigation, americans were sitting back he

what are you hear being this disconnect between what chuck hagel is saying and the president that we are talking about a jv team. >> he and general dempsey went a little reporter and expected. the fact that hagel said they are stronger than al qaeda. they are stronger than al qaeda pre-9/11. we'll have to see broader military actions. does that mean airstrikes in syria? general dempsey says we won't defeat isis unless we go into syria. you have the pentagon it sell saying that the airstrikes are helpful in getting the mosul dam back. preventing a genocide on that mountain with the religious minorities. you have got the pentagon budget. the president has been calling for cuts in the pentagon budget. if we are ramping up military action that has to change. martha: is this reflective of what we heard from others that there is a risk, the pentagon fees their hand are tied, that they are not being given the leeway they they need to achieve their goal. >> reporter: ben rhoads was asking if isis was a threat to the united states. he kept saying it poses a threat to persons inside iraq. he sa

event secretary chuck hagel says there that is far less likely the u.s.will take art in a rescue mission -- defense secretary chuck hagel says it is far less likely the u.s. will for art in a rescue mission refugees on the mountain. several thousand iraqi refugees. isthe role of u.s. forces not one know of combat on the ground. it is how to provide humanitarian assistance to the affected population. >> the department of defense says air drops of food and what are have sustained the refugees. also, airstrikes on the militants have allowed the refugees to escape the mountain. those remaining on the mountain are in good condition. officials in marin county, california, are defending their decision to release details about robin williams' death. he committed suicide monday. the sheriff's office received criticism for the details they released in a news conference tuesday, saying the level of detail was too much. the sheriff's office says that state law requires details be disclosed to the public. 7 on your side with a consumer alert. over 300,000 people enrol

defense secretary chuck hagel says there's growing threat tonight that russia will invade ukraine. he points to the increased build up of russian troops along the bothered. russia's state news agency said all imports of agricultural products from the u.s. to russia will be banned. let's bring in our panel before we hear from the president. jonah goldberg, ron fournier, a.b. stoddard and charles krauthammer. jonah we heard a lot of things as we managed to squeeze "special report" into different hours but that last story about chuck hagel warning russia invading ukraine seems the most press on the international hot spots front. >> i think that's right. getting back to my initial point from the beginning, one of the things that obama need to do tonight is convey a sense that he's simply on top of these things and is not overwhelmed, he has a plan, he's got his hands around the problems that america is face. one of the reasons why he's been in such trouble politically lately in the polls he doesn't give that sense. >> charles, it seems vladimir putin has just thumbed his nose at all of

what does that mean from chuck hagel? the media instantly seized on those remarks. but it seems that the white house was listening as well. they began to scramble together a last-minute press briefing earlier today to admit that jim foley's death was not only an act of terror but that isis does present such a serious threat that we need to be, as chuck hagel said, ready for everything even a september 11th-style attack. >> when you see somebody killed in such a horrific way, that represents a terrorist attack. >> are they capable of 9/11-size attack? >> to-date we have not seen them focus on that type of planning. but that doesn't mean we're not going to be very mindful that they could quickly aim to pivot to attacks against western targets outside of the region. and so, again, this is something we're going to monitor very closely because we certainly take seriously the fact that this is an organization that has a cadre of fighters clearly willing to do horrific things as we saw on that video and as we seen as a massacre in civilians in iraq. they have significant s

chuck hagel spoke about it a bit more obliquely. he basically just said we're keeping our options open when reporters were asking him about whether or not the u.s. is about to start bombing syria. he said we're keeping our options open, we're not ruling anything out. general dempsey for his part, he was more blunt. watch. >> general, do you believe that isis can be defeated or destroyed without addressing the cross-border threat from syria? and is it possible to contain them? >> yes, the answer is they can be contained. not in perpetuity. this is an organization that has an apocalyptic end of days strategic vision which will eventually have to be defeated. to your question, can they be defeated without addressing that part of their organization which resides in syria, the answer is no. that will have to be addressed on both sides of what is essentially at this point a nonexistent border. >> chairman of the joint chiefs saying, in military terms, isis cannot be defeated unless they're taken on both in iraq and in syria. general demps

connell: defense secretary chuck hagel and martin dempsey painting a scary vision there. so should we be getting ready for a long-term offensive in iraq? retired army colonel bob mcginnis joins us now and talking about syria with the comments we heard this week. but let me start by asking you, colonel. if we get to the point where the goal is we need to eliminate isis, that decision is made, how do we go about doing that? >> well, you have to have people on the ground, in the air, you have to intercept finances, go after any resource that they have out there. and of course, you have to have the entire community of nations surrounding that vicinity and cooperation. have you some, but clearly not all at this point. connell: let me take the ground operations first, a lot of people like to focus on, do we need boots on the ground. when you say we need troops on the ground, where? in iraq, syria? in both places in order to take on isis? and if the goal is to eliminate isis completely? >> to eliminate isis you have to look them in the eye and kill them. the reality is that isis

this was put also to chuck hagel and that briefing yesterday, and he emphatically said no. he said that aside -- assad remains part of the problem, not part of the solution, but it is a measure of how much the middle east has changed over the past year, that almost exactly a year ago, president obama was considering airstrikes against assad. now the middle east looks very different. >> thanks for that analysis. so how is the group islamic state managing to recruit so many young people, especially from western countries? we taken a closer look at some of the cases here in germany. >> silvio is a german convert to islam. in a propaganda video for the islamic state, he reaches out to would-be recruits in german. and his message is being heard. islamic state videos often get thousands of cliques. they are professional recordings with pop video style editing designed to appeal to young people in particular. the islamic state is very active online, especially on facebook, twitter, and youtube, and their efforts are paying off. many of the group's members have come from western co

in fact, a couple of hours ago, secretary of defense chuck hagel was on television doing a briefing, and he said that isis is a threat unlike the world has ever seen before. so that then begs the question, what then are we going to do about it? and i think that the problem with the golf thing also is that the nation needs to be led to understand that we are in a multi-generational war against ideological killers, and we have to have a sustained plan to deal with it. look at the special force, and support against isis, look what we were able to do when it came to saving the mosul dam. that's not an argument for doing less, it's an argument for america doing more. and there's a mosquito. >> i'm sorry we missed all the other shots of vice president cheney. >> we have another one. >> i figured we would. is it hyperbole to say this threatens us here? they have the intelligence community saying just the same day, no, it is not. >> which one? where? who said that? >> the national defense -- the defense department -- >> you mean the department where the general just basically under protest s

at the pentagon thursday defense secretary chuck hagel, warned that i.s. presents more of a threat to america. >> they are beyond a terrorist group. they marry ideology, traffic and military prowess. they are tremendously well funded. oh, this is beyond what we've seen. >> hagel's comments after officials say delta force command os, failed ocapture james foley, held by i.s. terrorists for almost two years. video showed foley beheaded by a british i.s. being commando. p.j, once the u.s. started pounding i.s. force he in iraq with air traction an strikes. and i.s. beheading which we will not show, even though speaker spoke in english and threatened the u.s. what is i.s. trying to do? >> well certainly it was trying to shock the west, it succeeded in doing that. it's rightly called barbaric and it's offensive to western ers and will strengthen the threat that i.s. faces. i think it's also offensive to a majority of muslims that do not want to live in that kind of societal. addressed to primarily that sliver of malcontents, in the middle east and in the west,

chuck hagel repeated it several types. >>> first the airstrikes, and then the advisers, and what next? >> well, the pentagon has maintained all along, as how the white house, that these are tactical strikes, not intended to turn the tide of war, and turn back the substantial gains that the islamic state grup has made in iraq, and now what they're trying to do is preserve what space they have afforded the kurds. and the question, john, the question has been all along. if these rebel groups make advances on baghdad, and as of a month ago and continuing on, they have been pressing from the north and west, the question is what would the administration do to try to save baghdad given all of the turmoil right now? and i think its clear now. if they're willing to take the step to protect erbil, they would certainly be willing to do it when it comes to baghdad. >> mike, thanks, in baghdad, iraq's embattled prime minister's claim to power, and saudi arabia, offered support for his rival and many iraqis just want the political crisis to end. jane has that story. >> reporter: it was a clear mess

and, we are going to cover secretary -- defense secretary chuck hagel's chilling morning about isis,are more than a terrorist group and unlike anything he's seen before. we'll look at the e-mail they sent his parents before they murdered him. we are going to talk to the pentagon to see what can be done. >> thank you, kate. >> thanks, guys. >>> the war in gaza escalated. what does it mean for peace talks going forward? we are live, next. dust irritating your eye? (singing) ♪ visine® gives your eyes relief in seconds. visine®. get back to normal. we'we're trying ourls. best to be role models. we don't jump at the sound of the opening bell, because we're trying to make the school bell. corner booth beats corner office any day. we make the most out of our time... and our money. the chevrolet malibu. j.d. power's highest ranked midsize car in initial quality. the car for the richest guys on earth. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh. with beneful healthy smile snacks. with soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snac

chuck hagel. where is he on this? >> obama wanted a weak sec-def.eeds strong advice. somebody to stand up to him and say everything bill ayers told you about american military intervention is wrong. sometimes it's good. sometimes it's necessary. earn the pope has come out in favor of airstrikes again these genocidal terrorists. and obama is on martha's vineyard. march already thank you very much. bill: back to the additional forces being sent into iraq as the white house weighs what comes next after days of targeted airstrikes. wendell go lettewendell goler in martha's vineyard. >> they can't just protect the refugees on sinjar mountain. they have got to get them off. boots on ought ground at least. pentagon officials say not in a combat role. the u.s. sent a team of advisers to sinjar not assess the situation and report back options. one option would be creating a safe corridor to kurdish territory. another option would be to fly the refugees to safety using helicopters. but there are tens of thousands of refugees so it would be a substantial airli

i would prefer seeing chuck hagel making his comments rather than eric holder., because what happened with james foley is it was a declaration of war against the united states of america by isis. isis declared itself the islamic state. in other words, a defacto country. parts of syria and iraq declared themselves a country. they committed an act of war against the united states. i think the president of the united states should now say we are at war with isis. everything goes. this is not about iraq's government. this is not about bashar al assad in the mask of syria. this is about us and then. we are at war with isis. >> the president is not going to say that. he's not even naming the mission in iraq. he's not even putting a name on that. he doesn't want to talk about the war on terror anymore. i think it would be great if he did that, but do you really think he's going to do that? >> this is not the war on terror anymore. what you have a is a detack to state committing an act of war against our state shs the united states. i want the president to know that the

the disclosures came as defense secretary chuck hagel issued a dire new assessment of the threat posed by isis, and new details were released about the failed attempt to rescue foley. we have more on the story now from margaret brennan at the pentagon. >> reporter: the hostages, including foley and three others, were thought to be at this camp inside an oil refinery in northern syria, an area controlled by isis. two dozen special operation forces commandos dropped from black hawk helicopters outfitted with stealth technology to avoid detection. with surveillance aircraft overhead, the team swooped in to search for the hostages. they encountered isis militants and engaged in a fire fight, but the hostages were gone. several isis fighters were killed. one american commando was injured. the rest were flown to safety. u.s. officials admit that the covert mission, launched in early july, was based on good, but not great intelligence about the location of the hostages. the u.s. government had been tracking the american hostages for months and was aware of ransom requests from isis. defense s

defense secretary chuck hagel summing it up by saying the u.s. needs to quote get ready. ley, hagel says they're sophisticated and well-funded as any group we've seen. this comes as we're getting new details about the unsuccessful commando raid to rescue isis hostages. barbara starr has been looking into that. what can you tell us? >> chuck hagel acknowledged it straight up. the pentagon revealed the secret raid because they believe the news media was about to report it anyhow. it was july 4th weekend abdaring night time raid in northern syria. a strong hold of isis. u.s. special forces were sent into danger because the intelligence showed the target was a likely location where the hostages were being held, a senior u.s. official tells cnn. but it was not certain. the intelligence failed. >> intelligence doesn't come wrapped in a package with a bow. it is a mosaic of many pictures, of many factors. >> the mission was unpresence dented. >> in a wags where wu you're going into a country which is fraught with danger, which is potentially going into a danger that's controlled

that was followed up by chuck hagel saying this is more than just a terrorist group. is he right?they are a terrorist group that now controls about a third of iraq. it's a particular potent, well organized, mobile ambitious terrorist group. president obama has been trying to walk a very fine line between a gradual escalating response to isis and reassuring a country that is weary of war, especially in iraq, that he's not going to take american troops back. so far i think he's basically gotten that about right. we are stepping up to protect the kurds to stop the master of the yazidi minority, take isis control away from big dam -- >> brutality we saw in the video, does that escalate the pressure on him? >> it escalates the tightrope, tightens the tightrope. i n't know how he does this. on the one hand we saw intelligence chairman saying we have the capability, we just don't have the will or the policy. on the other hand you don't have -- i haven't heard anybody saying what we ought to be dogins. they are hinting we're going inside syria but to what end. what is the goal? that is a

chuck hagel said it's beyond anything we've ever seen. we're learning more details this morning about the ruthless group that beheaded james foley before foley was executed isis sent his parents this chilling e-mail full of rage saying james would pay the price for u.s. air strikes against a group in iraq. i was excited to see an e-mail despite the conclusions they would execute jim. i underestimated that point. i didn't realize how real they were. i hope we can engage in negotiations with them. >> the foleys say they took huge comfort in the phone call they received from pope francis yesterday who offered his support and prayers. >> at the pentagon chuck hagel and joint chiefs chairman general martin dempsey offered a sobering assessment of isis. >> this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. and the only way you do that is take a cold, steely hard look at it and get ready. they are imin the end threat to every interest we have whether it's in iraq or anywhere else. >> isis has the sophisticated pr machine

yesterday defense secretary chuck hagel outlined the immediate threat seen from the terror group. >> they marry ideology sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. they are tremendously well-funded. this is beyond anything that we've seen. >> "beyond anything that we've seen." let's talk about that, joined bien kren military general spider marks and former secret service agent edie pomporas. >> it astounded me he termed "it's beyond anything we've seen before"? >> it's beyond any terrorist organization we've seen before. we've conventional forces that have the capabilities but this is a terrorist organization that migrated and has assumed as its foundation a lot of conventional capabilities through their ability to capture u.s. equipment that's in iraq, to galvanize, recruit and to train, to levels of precision that we've not seen in terrorist organizations, and we've been stating this for quite some time and secretary hagel is spot often on, stating what we're seeing, which is well-trained, well-funded, very galvanized and in the execution of their tasks, these indiv

we know the president authorized this raid, now we have chuck hagel offering the first reaction to what happened. >> earlier this summer, the united states attempted to rescue a number of hostages including jim. we all regret that mission did not succeed. >> and the anger the condemnation of the islamic state group echoing across the american government, the highest levels today, and yesterday, david. >> mike, as you know, in the video members of the islamic state they plame the air strikes against them for them having to execute folly, what has been the reaction from the pent upon from the white house to those claims. >> the state department, yeah, we have some interesting reaction here, and first of all, earlier today, where a spokesperson there are some 12,000 foreign fighters inside of syria including a number of them who are are americans an undetermined number, they come from as many as 50 foreign countries. just moments ago, general dempsey stated what could be considered the obvious, and the only way to beat the state group, is to rout them from syria. you have already reported

it was a mission that defense secretary chuck hagel describes as flawless, but unfortunately it failedthe pentagon defended its failed mission to rescue james foley and other american hostages in syria. >> the mission was executed flawlessly after a significant period of preparation and planning and rehearsal. and the -- it turned out that the hostages were no longer at that location. >> intelligence doesn't come wrapped in a package with a bow. >> reporter: defense secretary chuck hagel said the u.s. expects isis to regroup and stage a new offensive. attorney general eric holder said there's an open criminal investigation into foley's murder. >> people will be held accountable one way or the other. >> reporter: isis demanded a ransom of $130 million in exchange for foley's release. >> we do not make concessions to terrorists, that includes we do not pay ransom. >> reporter: the ceo of globalpost, the news organization foley was working for when he was captured, said they never took seriously the isis demands for payment. >> we did everything we could, as did the family. >> reporter: y

the president sits down with defense secretary chuck hagel today.complicated in that legion right now where so much going on. overnight or yesterday we had the release of theo curtis who had been held for two years there. a very different outcome than we saw with james foley. explain to me why you think we saw this different outcome. what was the key to getting theo curtis out alive? >> i think probably two keys. first we have the intermediaries, the qatari whose have been in this fight for a long time. in the middle of the revolution in egypt. good contacts with taliban. contacts with news rah, the group that held this hostage. billions of dollars of natural gas, trying to play on the global stage. remember, they also won the world cup. they are trying to position themselves with just a few hundred thousand citizens to become players on a global stage. i suspect they talked to them and said, look, you look bad if you kill him. let him go and we'll maintain our relationship with you which i'm sure involves weapon flows. the second and final thing i

here is defense secretary chuck hagel just 48 hours later. >> isil is a sophisticated and well-funded as any group that we have seen. they're beyond just a terrorist group. they marry ideology, a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess, they are tremendously well-funded. this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. >> beyond anything. prepare for everything. want more? here's chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers on this broadcast last night. >> our fear here is that this notion that if we just don't do anything everything is going to be okay is going to continue. this is as dangerous a threat matrix as i have ever seen in my time on the intel committee, which is about ten years, megyn. it is serious. >> then today as a reminder of who these guys are we received this video of syrian soldiers, 250 of them reportedly captured by isis, stripped to their underwear, marched through the desert by their laughing captors, then shot dead and left in a scene we will not show you. yesterday the white house assured the public the

damage that it could not proceed, but it may have made matters worse with comments like these from chuck hagel. >> isis is a sophisticated and well-funded group and they are beyond a terrorist group. they have a sophistication of strategic and we must prepare for everything. >> damage control continues with the pentagon suggesting the president obama's january the missile is a junior varsity team was a correct assessment at the time and it has grown in its capabilities in the past six months. >> they have advanced in capability and we saw the speed with which they gained ground and held ground in northern rock earlier this summer. so it is a constantly changing and fluid situation and the threat continues to grow. >> his answer and rationalization doesn't explain why the administration and our allies allowed the islamic state to develop such deadly capabilities and strengths. adding to the difficulty of defending the president is the fact that he is spending so much time on the golf course these days instead of trying to appear as though he is engaged in dealing effectively with and during a w

defense secretary chuck hagel says this is not a boots on the ground combat operation, alisyn. >> meanwhile, the u.s. launched more airstrikes against isis positions today. but the group remains a powerful threat. and it's led by an extremely violent and mysterious man. here is cnn's jean casarez. >> reporter: is this the most dangerous man in the world? rising from the shadow of al qaeda, the leader of isis, abu bakr al baghdadi. this recent video reportedly shows the reclusive leader at a mosque in northern iraq. it's the first time even some of his followers laid eyes on him. >> he is iraqi, of course, and he came from a relatively poor family. he studied islamic law. >> reporter: baghdadi, who is in his early 40s has not always been thought of as the terrorist leader he is today. in fact, u.s. forces captured him in fallujah in 2004 and held him in camp buca. a skilled former amateur soccer player, he was considered a low level al qaeda member, according to a pentagon spokesman, a review board recommended his unconditional release. >> so he came really pretty quickly up to the top. and

interests and in fact chuck hagel just recently said that it's a threat to every interest that we have is this really an accurate assumption or is this an exaggeration to me it's more rhetoric you know there's very little evidence for the fact that isis is a threat sure they have made statements but statements in ability are two very different things and you know didn't have weapons of mass destruction in two thousand and three we learned that babies in. baiters in one thousand nine hundred one was made up for tisha story and i have real doubts about the sincerity of the underlying policy decisions being made for everything chuck hagel would make such a broad statement you know it's really hard to know from my view. officials are thinking we've been bombing iraq for at almost twenty five years we've been involved in the region for at least the last fifty and we have a few positive examples of where military forces work i don't know why we continue to double down on these failed policies we need a different approach and the approach of bombs and boots first will fail again if we if we d

. >> you heard chuck hagel say it was a threat to everywhere, anywhere.i'm not sure everyone agrees. this is more of a conventional army with isis. they have equipment. trying to take territory. they want to establish a caliphate over there. if we get in the way, if america gets in the way, if western powers get in the way, then they'll go after us. in terms of imminent to this country, the fbi says not right now. >> we were all struck by the horrific pictures of james foley which led to the question of whether or not the united states should be paying ransom for the hostages. i want to bring that to rakmini callimachi. you had a story a few weeks ago where you had europe bankrolling al qaeda terror. owe you -- you wrote al qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid just last year. the united states says it does not pay ransom. the european government denies it as well. it appears the european have paid it in some fashion. >> ye, absolutely. it's clear from my r

i know you have to go, congressman, because you're meeting with the defense secretary, chuck hagel, you are concerned how millerrized the police have become. what are you going to tell secretary hagel? >> well, i'm going to share with secretary hagel some concerns that have been raised by my constituents and by me as far as what i saw several nights out there on west florissant where you had heavily armed police tactical units pointing it these sophisticated weapons at innocent protesters, my constituents. i got a call yesterday from a marine vet who is done two tours of duty in the afghanistan and he says that if in afghanistan they pointed their weapons at unarmed civilians, they would be court-martialed. so apparently this policy has to change. >> congressman lacy clay, good luck with your meeting with the secretary of defense. coming up next, the u.s. attorney general meets michael brown's family. how confident are they now that there will be a full and fair investigation? we'll ask their attorney coming up. moderate to severe is tough, but i've managed. i got to be pretty good at m

that was followed up by chuck hagel saying this is more than just a terrorist group. is he right? terrorist group that now controls about a third of iraq. it's a particular potent, well organized, mobile ambitious terrorist group. president obama has been trying to walk a very fine line between a gradual escalating response to isis and reassuring a country that is weary of war, especially in iraq, that he's not going to take american troops back. so far i think he's basically gotten that about right. we are stepping up to protect the kurds to stop the master of the yazidi minority, take isis control away from big dam -- >> brutality we saw in the video, does that escalate the pressure on him? >> it escalates the tightrope, tightens the tightrope. i don't know how he does this. on the one hand we saw intelligence chairman saying we have the capability, we just don't have the will or the policy. on the other hand you don't have -- i haven't heard anybody saying what we ought to be dogins. they are hinting we're going inside syria but to what end. what is the goal? that is a very com