chuck hagel always good to see you. >> thank you, neil. neil: the former secretary of state under barack obama, chuck hagel. and talking about the security committee, full plate, mark green, the tennessee republican with us now. congressman, you probably just heard with what chuck hagel saying, as much value to be gained on getting our hands on this balloon, whatever you want to call it and see what technology presumably the chinese have and by extension do it over water? what do you think? >> well, we certainly could have done that, neil, before it got into our-- you know, over our territory. that thing could have been brought down when it was in the elution area, and as soon as it got over our 12 miles of, you know, space over the ocean we could have brought that thing down and should have done that. president biden's had-- just a run of bad decisions on this one, too, not informing congress, not shooting it down, and just allowing it to go all-- the thing went from 60,000 feet to 30,000 feet, it's clearly maneuverable, it's got capabili

he worked for chuck hagel up on the hill. policy director over at heritage, you know. at the chamber of commerce. we used to have lots of opportunity to be together and i was always just so deeply impressed by his patriotism. it started young. he was, you know, we've had several bona fide military secretaries of state. he did it the old fashioned way, a west point grad, became part of the screaming eagles, served in combat. he knows at every level of command the challenges facing the department and he had a lot of them when he was the secretary. we're going to dig into that this afternoon. and very much look forward to this conversation. dr. seth jones is going to lead it for us. so let me just, without further ado, i do want to ask you to, with your very warm applause, welcome the secretary and thank him for coming. [applause] mark: thank you for the kind introduction. it's nice to be doing this in person. we have a packed audience here. thank you for your service and it's great to have you. thanks for a great book. as someone who has written books myself, not quite t

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