we have a veterans justice commission working right now that has senator chuck hagel and former defense secretary hagel. up with a former white house chief of staff and defense secretary. we are building common ground across the political spectrum for things that actually work. host: counciloncj.org is where people can go. when we talk about crime trends, it is usually bad news first. let's flip the script. the headline on your opinion piece, on criminal justice, don't just focus on the bad news. we ignore progress at our peril. what is the progress? guest: if you look at this long-term, we are in a better place than work. sometimes it is easy to focus on what is happening now. there is a general sense that in the country things continue to get worse. the effect of the matter is whether you are concerned mostly about crime or about the rate of incarceration in this country, both of those things have come down dramatically since the early 1990's. crime is at least 50% lower than it was in the 90's and the incarceration rate, people have an impression that the incarceration rate has conti

>> first, shame on chuck hagel for those normalizing of the abnormal comment. exactly that type of pooh-poohing of what we are all seeing and hearing and feeling in our guts, in our bones, and between our ears about what is happening. where in a moment for american democracy, because in six weeks or less than six weeks, voters are to look to start voting in these early states. if donald trump wins iowa and new hampshire, right now the poll shows he's going to win both illustrates, no one's really mounted a serious challenge to his standing in those two states. he's going to be the republican nominee for president. the difference between a donald trump second administration for the first trump administration, this is what are even more irresponsible and shameful are because donald trump has learned that lessons of what guardrails existed in the first term. if he goes into the second with this rhetoric, it is seat planting fascism. he's planting the seeds now, in an environment he knows he will be able to enforce but if god forbid he manages to regain power, it w

we have a veterans justice commission working right now that has senator chuck hagel and former defenseretary hagel. up with a former white house chief of staff and defense secretary. we are building common ground across the political spectrum for things that actually work. host: counciloncj.org is where people can go. when we talk about crime trends, it is usually bad news first. let's flip the script. the headline on your opinion piece, on criminal justice, don't just focus on the bad news. we ignore progress at our peril. what is the progress? guest: if you look at this long-term, we are in a better place than work. sometimes it is easy to focus on what is happening now. there is a general sense that in the country things continue to get worse. the effect of the matter is whether you are concerned mostly about crime or about the rate of incarceration in this country, both of those things have come down dramatically since the early 1990's. crime is at least 50% lower than it was in the 90's and the incarceration rate, people have an impression that the incarceration rate has continued