nice to have the old friend and my editor at hearst "the new york times" syndicate, chuck lewis, senior editor of the hearst newspapers in washington. and another new friend at this table, michael fauntroy of george mason university, where he teaches public policy. and this is all about public policy. so, welcome. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> talking about public policy, we have some people who want to change. they want to change it in the home, they want to change it overseas. what is going on? in short -- an election. >> shortens elections. where everything is seen in the prism of wars. you find is curious? we have wars on women, we have wars on small business. everything is seen in the prison -- prism of war. that is a sad thing. why are we not talk about policy? >> and there are shooting wars going on. contention in afghanistan, contention in syria. there may soon be in iran. the real wars and chateau wars. >> and what are now being called a phony war -- like the phony war on women. why don't we just talk about policies of women -- that we will we have a flare-up like hilary ro

all the duop bands and elvis presley and, of course, chuck barry, michael jackson, jerry lee lewis.kids we were watching these

some of the early records that were recorded by presley and jerry lee lewis, too, in particular, it was all music that was written by chuck produced by little richard and who recorded hound dog, but it was all of the white people took this music and made money with it and got it played on the radio station. dick clark gave exposure, white exposure to these black artists and in that way he affected a very profound change to the music landscape and the opportunities are available to black recording artists. >> jack, i have one more question for you and anderson, but i want to reset for my audience. dick clark, american bandstand, host of the pyramid game show, "new year's rockin' eve" has died today of what we are told was a massive stroke after some sort of outpatient procedure yesterday. he was 82 years old. jack, this is a man who has been in television since late '50s. what do you think the key thing that accounts for his staying power? >> well, he was good at what he did. anderson talked a little about that. he had a set of skills like johnny carson had. he was just -- he was beyond cool. he was very smooth, and he loo