chuck nash is retired from the navy and a an analyst. you say there is another country that is the major target here. what is it? >> the major target is and always has been saudi arabia. it was osama bin laden's main target. and the reason we have this fight going on is not juicyst a sunni/shiite war. and that is abubakar al bagged bakcker al baghdad baghdadi whose the head of isis. the key is who are the true believers who will control mecca and medina. and of course they sit in saadudi arabia arabia. >> let's talk about the syrian city taken over the message "we're finished." the military is completely overwhelmed. we have air strikes but they don't seem to be assisting them in the by a they need. >> you know, that is a very perplexing situation julie. we do have the air power. we could strike. if you see massive troops with black flags going down a road that should be an easy target but what are the rules of engagement and where are the air kraft operating? obviously not there. and obviously the bad guys are not so blatantly going dow

. >>> well from gitmo to full freedom, captain chuck nash is a military analyst and former navy captaind to see you. >> thank you. >> this is cooking down for a few hours from now. do you think the travel ban will expire? if so what will they do? >> well if it doesn't expire then that means we have renegotiated the deal and broke the commitment. that was made that the obama administration made when these guys were released and sent there. so i think what they're going to say is a deal's a deal. and they're already padding that by saying that the chances of them going back to the battlefield are very slim. well, this's just not true. the facts don't bear that out. there have been 620 detainees released from guantanamo bay. of that 620, 184 are either confirmed or suspected of returning to the battlefield and of those 184, 60 of them have been killed or recaptured. so there is a track record. there is a high recidivism rate. still those are just basic guys let out early because they weren't a threat. these guys are some of the worst of the worst. they were held much much longer because it

i'm joined by captain chuck nash, fox news military analyst, and peter brooks of the heritage foundation captain let me start with you how serious is this? >> well, it's pretty serious, and it says more about the iraqi forces than it does about isis quite frankly because to hold a town and lose it it's going to be even harder to retake it. and u.s. and coalition forces flew eight strike packages against ramadi yesterday in support of the iraqi forces, took out a bunch of armored vehicles and mortar positions and fighting positions and a command/control facility. but once the bad guys get down and dirty into the town, now you're looking at huge potential collateral damage issues, and it slows everything down. melissa: peter and the response from washington is the tide will turn against isis soon, you know, this is -- it's just a moment in time. is that false hope? >> yeah. i mean, it's overly optimistic. i mean we've been doing this for nine months now, and i don't see the situation is getting much better at all. and this is certainly bad news about ramadi. you know obviously contrast tha

. >> retired navy captain chuck nash is a fox news military analyst and joins us now.ood to talk to you. >> nice to be with you. >> do you agree with the secretary of defense, ash carter? they don't have the will to fight. and if so i mean how can the united states change that? can you really change an entire army's will? >> we can palletize equipment, give them training do lat of things but you cannot give them the will to fight. that's something they have to do and we have to figure out what that motivation is for them to fight. and up until this point, we haven't figured it out. and all they see, the sunni population in iraq sees isis coming and killing them and butchering people and they see the shiite militias who are willing to do the same thing. so you have the sunni minority population being crushed between the shiites to the southeast and the isis forces coming from the west and the north. >> yeah. let's talk about the u.s. military strategy now if we may. a week ago, the pentagon said this. the coalition and iraqi security forces strategy to defeat and disman

. >> chuck nash is here retired colonel, thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure heather. >> we haveons like stalemate, stuck in neutral, tactical setback. how would you describe the strategy of the obama administration? >> doing enough to appear like we are doing something and at the time time allowing the shit shitte to ground it up. >> what should he do different? >> the gulf arabs seeing us taking iran's side striking a deal and supporting the efforts of the iranian-backed government in baghdad. from the iranian point of view we are involved too much in the region where they don't want us. they see themselves as the dominant power and we have been supporting the regime in the gulf, saudi arabia and uae. if you look at it from isis' position the iranians are heretics and the saudi arabia are too close loosing their religious zeal and not following the religion accurately and they are not in favor. and the leader of isis as far as he is concerned, he is taking the religion back to his roots. he and his people are the true believers and everybody else better get out of the way. >> i

talk now with about all of this with captain chuck nash retired navy captain and the fox news militaryt. captain, good of you to join us. does this show we're on the right track -- first of all, congratulations on the success and without injuries to american forces. >> extremely well done by the delta forces guys and the other thing that heartens me over this is the fact that the intelligence was so good. we had had a couple intelligence failures and in that game it's really hard to call them failures because it's just so doggone hard. but this one came off without a hitch. okay. they kim add guy, but the choice was capture or kill and they couldn't take him alive, so they at least they got rit of him and he's no longer sucking oxygen. that's good, too. >> the other thing. they were able to retrieve information on a computer. what might that tell us about isis? >> yeah. well that could be the key to opening more doors and maybe even if we had captured him alive, were counting on his testimony and his recollections, because what this could show us kelly, is it could open the doors to th

. >> fox news military analyst retired navy captain and fighter pilot chuck nash joins us as well. force chief of staff, better than we have in many areas in three to five years. that sounds scary. >> well i think he also qualified that by saying if they stay on track. the russians are developing their aircraft that they recently announced they're going to cut it back significantly. and it's an economic factor. strong economies allow for strong militaries. if the economy goes down as the russians are suffering, it's going to affect what they can do. >> the chinese, though, are still doing pretty well. is this a service chief sounding the alarm bells so he gets more money for more toys, or is the idea of u.s. air superiority really at risk? >> i think right now the air superiority is not at risk. however, what he's doing is projecting into the future. the chinese are sitting on -- >> it takes a long time to develop these kind of programs. >> it does indeed. and what we tend to do because we tend to build ubersystems they cost a lot and then you get into the production and you can't