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and these people will have the last word. >> chuck rosenberg, very measured. i feel safe. feels -- i stir things up too much, chuck. i think you're a calming presence. >> carol, stay with us. very nice to meet you. thank you for coming on. >> great to have you here. >>> up next, rex tillerson has a key ally in the senate in the form of bob corker. but what happens to the state department when the tennessee republican heads for the door? we're going to brick ng in a for u.s. ambassador who's tackling that question. >>> and on tomorrow's show, the very governor of new jersey phil murphy is our guest. is he going to do that when he comes here? >> i hope so. >> okay, we'll be right back with more "morning joe." [burke] at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "red-hot mascot." [mascot] hey-oooo! whoop, whoop! [crowd 1] hey, you're on fire! [mascot] you bet i am! [crowd 2] dude, you're on fire! [mascot] oh, yeah! [crowd 3] no, you're on fire! look behind you. [mascot] i'm cool. i'm cool. [burke] that's one way to fire up the crowd.

counsel to robert mueller, former chief of staff to james comey and former acting head of dea, chuck rosenberg, now an msnbc contributor thankfully. it's great to see you. great to meet you. we haven't met before. i've been watching you with rachel and others and you are so well suited to sort out what this could and does not necessarily mean. what can we infer if anything from the fact that they are no longer talking? >> i'm going to try. i hope i'm well suited. when defendants have a common interest, in other words, they're all sort of in the same boat, they can create a joint defense agreement with their attorneys. and they can try and sort through the issues together. it's apparently what mike flynn had done. when you withdraw from a joint defense agreement, it usually means that you're cooperating. it doesn't have to mean that, but in my experience, it's because you've broken off because you're trying to work out something with the prosecutor. that's probably what's going on. >> can you still use the privileged information that you received when you were once a part of that joint agreemen

. >> kind of like what chuck rosenberg said yesterday, he said, you know what, i don't want to be polly annish, but there are a lot of men and women in the justice department. they have been there, they seen political tides come and go, i think they're going to do the right thing and jeff sessions, we're going to criticize him in a minute for forgetting or overlooking another russia meeting, but at the same time, as i pointed out yesterday, when america, when the republic needed jeff sessions to stand up and recuse himself, so justice might have a chance of being blind, he did it. >> he's done it twice now. he's in a terrible position. he's got a president that's bullying him. you know, through twitter, which is not the best way to communicate with your staff. he's being push and prodded. he's got now the guys on the hill who are pushing against him. and he's done the right thing. he did right thing by recusing himself, he did the right thing by pushing back yesterday. his mandate, attorney general's mandate is taking a an aggressive stance on crime the opioid investigation. if we run a