. >> i interviewed majority leader chuck schumerabout how he is approaching the debt ceiling talk . so he's seen a lot of different physical showdowns, democrats and republicans republicans 202-748-8001, democrats to to 748 8000 and independence tools to 748-8002. you can text us as well. 202748 8003. ms. goodwin, are the desktops continuingthis week and are the two sides actually talking ? >> this is what schumer has been making, he doesn't like to call it a negotiation because he thinksuntil speaker party says what kind of cuts they want , attached to the debt ceiling vote and lays out his is not the negotiation, obviously mccarthy is saying he met with hbyron in the white house that's something they're portraying has always been at the democrats or even in the room given that brian is a known association that ceiling and opens his thoughts on budget changing separately from the debt ceiling but he says this is such an important vote and hold it hostage and yet he is in the room with mccarthy therefore thinks that on the inside . so they haven't set a date for a new meeting as far